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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Obama had full control of both houses and the White House, they could have passed whatever they wanted.

Fucking lmao.

[-] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 5 points 5 months ago

Oh I’m sorry, where did the ACA come from?

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Three months of Obama's negotiations with a Senate whose supermajority was built on Blue-Dog Democrats from highly conservative areas, and of whom every single one was necessary.

What, do you think Obama comes in like a Roman Emperor, proposes legislation to the Senate, and then has a vote that same day? Do you not know anything about the functioning of the modern US Congress? Jesus Christ.

[-] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 7 points 5 months ago

If Obama couldn’t get his team to fall in line when they had everything going for them, then he did not do his job well enough.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

"His team"

The Senate wasn't hand-picked by Obama. Fuck, many of them had been in the Senate longer than Obama had been in politics, repeatedly re-elected by their constituents to represent interests which were not necessarily in-line with Obama's plans. "He should have just done it better!" is a ridiculous position.

[-] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 6 points 5 months ago

His team is the Democratic Party, by his own choice

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

His team is the Democratic Party because there are two major parties in this country. And one of them spent years calling him racial slurs, so their support was doubtful.

What were Obama's other choices, in this scenario?

We fight according to the situation as it is, not the situation as we want it to be.

[-] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 4 points 5 months ago
[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

An incredibly popular president returning after having already been elected once split off during a contested convention at the Republican Party, which was initially the venue through which their candidate was going to run and managed to lose the ensuing election, accomplishing nothing except the election of a rival.

And that was the best third-party showing in US presidential history.

this post was submitted on 18 May 2024
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