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Dude "celebrates" 125 years since Nabokov was born by releasing a language with the one name you associate with this famous author:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40117249
lol @ hn spam attack
it's the dead internet they specifically deserved
The faithful are worried that Great Sky Father Graham is not dealing with this in a timely manner
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40118778
wow, the fucking bitterness in that thread as the site for clever hackers gets taken down by a really basic spam attack and doesn’t have even obvious mitigations in place (like a signup queue, one of the few anti-spam measures Lemmy implements)
I keep saying this, but the only thing I’ve seen the orange site’s anti-spam mechanisms consistently do is silence marginalized folks and anyone who tries to speak up for them. those mechanisms are fucking terrible at actually handling any volume of real spam, but in spite of what dang and company claim, they’re not really meant to deal with spam at all.
They should get some of those bayesianists on the problem, stat!
A Plan for Spam
no no I meant a plan for making spam
As a Trained Rationalist Bayesianist, I thought the A Plan for Spam was easy. But turns out everybody else has the wrong definition of what Spam is, so I need to first make documents that make it possible for people to know what Spam actually is, but turns out language is imprecise ergo, we first need to develop language again from first principles. So please read my book where we construct an alphabet from first principles, The Spamquences. Soon the second book will be released, the SpamSpamquences, and we are working on a site: SpamSpamSausageEggsBaconSpamquences.com.
Can I have fries ~~with~~ instead of that? And a milkshake
Yes sure, and can we supersize your order for one dollar extra? Great value!
That guy defending the book in the comments by going 'he is 19, I also thought the same when I was 19 and only realized later that he was intended to be the bad guy'. Oof... (And double oof as his comments goes from 'I didn't get this message at 19, and now 15 years later, I get why others dislike the book, without really making it 100% clear that he himself also considers Humbert the bad guy. (In the few times I had the misfortune of talking to pedophiles, this is the type of squirrelly language they use. Not that this means the person is a pedophile, I assume he isn't and just expresses himself poorly there, he just gives off a dodgy feeling with that one comment. Anyway, think the devil has enough lawyers).
Edit: I would esp be wary of playing devils advocate for somebody who writes this in their design document:
[ first kinds excluded ]
That is a very odd example to pick from that book. Certainly considering everything the past few decades.
(I have no opinion on the language itself, didn't even look at it as I don't really think creating new languages is that interesting. I'm always reminded of the XKCD competing standards comic).
this is the fastest I’ve ever seen a project of this size (including all the specs and papers associated with it) get renamed
I think it's entirely gone now.
of course big parts of the orange site are tripping over themselves to call this language clever and… maybe I’m in a particularly bad mood, but I just don’t see it. the syntax looks like a fucking disaster (and I like ML-style languages) and the features seem to be a grab bag of features from existing languages and CS research. it’s basically the kind of testbench language you design to explore the problem space and never release, but here it is with a webpage and a name and papertrail in the docs that point to the designer being a real shithead.
it’s possible I’m being unfair to the language (its designer definitely seems like a shithead) — is there anything coherent here that I’m just missing?
Re: alternate names based on Nabokov books
As opposed to an extraordinary programmer with great taste who chooses the most easily misinterpreted novel by Nabokov instead, one that has spawned an entire seamy subculture. Got it, HN.
the shitheadery is probably? due to the author being 19.
probably! I was a weird shithead at 19 too, though fortunately not this particular strain of weird shithead
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Is the compiler named “Humbert”?