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"This is B.S.—you were doing this as a dilatory tactic to help your political friend," says Rachel Maddow on the Supreme Court agreeing to hear the Trump immunity argument, delaying his coup trial. "And for you to say that this is something that the Court needs to decide because it's something that's unclear in the law is just flagrant, flagrant bullpucky."

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[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 months ago

The current situation is that the Democrats are completely unreachable on the issue of "stop arming a genocide", but then somehow this is a bridge too far

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Yeah, turning the US into a military dictatorship wouldn't do anything to stop them from continuing to supply the genocide and I really don't see how you'd ever think so..

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago

I've been told by numerous Democrats that I should be voting for them despite their complicity in the genocide of the Palestinian people, because of all the things they're getting done. They could literally get anything they want done to protect abortion and LGBT people and they choose not to, while the genocide continues anyways.

[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

You've been told that the GOP will accelerate and increase the suffering of the Palestinian people. This remains to be true. If you're voting only on that issue the Democratic Party is the best choice for preventing more death and destruction in Gaza. If you have an argument for how the GOP will improve the situation in Gaza I'm all ears, but I'm pretty certain you don't.

Biden and a good chunk of the Democrats are wrong on how we are handling the crisis in Gaza. They are also our best shot at helping the Palestinian people (electorally). Both things can be true simultaneously.

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

This is literally just good cop/bad cop where the assertion that the good cop is 'better' is just some guys telling me 'trust me bro the other guys worse' despite his far lower body count

[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Okay but in your scenario the problem is the "good cop" is actually the same as the "bad cop". Are you arguing that Biden and Trump are equal? What leads you to that conclusion?

If we had evidence the "good cop" would lead to better results or that working with the "bad cop" leads to worse results, and we had to work with one of the cops regardless, it would make perfect sense to work with the good one.

If you think saying Trump would be worse than Biden is the equivalent of "trust me bro" there's really no helping you. We just have to explain to everyone else how ridiculous that is given the literal mountains of evidence to the contrary.

Again, I would like actual reasoning how Trump being elected helps the Palestinians. I'm not saying Biden or the Democrats are right on the issue, I would argue the opposite. I just want to know how they aren't the best option we have right now when compared to the GOP. Anytime now.

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

Not voting for the genocide, if it's such a problem they should change their behavior. They clearly don't care about my vote so why should I bother participating?

[-] JackiesFridge@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

If you are not participating in the system, your opinion of the system is moot.

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

They already don't care about my opinion when I do participate!

Democracy is when every candidate is corporate owned and the vote is decided by process designed by slaveowners 300 years ago to specifically suppress the popular vote.

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