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[-] aberrate_junior_beatnik@midwest.social 26 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

staying home rather than going out and voting for Biden

I'm not going to stay home. I'm going to go to the polling place and leave that part empty on the ballot.

Here's the bottom line: I cannot bring myself to officially support someone who I admit is an active supporter of genocide. Listen to yourselves. You are literally saying that I should feel bad because I won't support someone who is actively supporting genocide. They are carpet bombing children, intentionally starving them, denying them medical care, all because of their ethnicity. He is expediting military aid to make sure they can.

I wouldn't vote for Hitler just because I believed his opponent was worse. The reason I wouldn't vote for Hitler is because of the genocide. I have to draw a line somewhere. If anything, I should probably have drawn it somewhere before genocide.

BTW, I'm not saying you're a bad person if you do vote for Biden, or even that I'm somehow better for not. I get it. I just can't bring myself to do it.

[Edit: Americans, if you're thinking of replying to me, consider instead or additionally going to Ceasefire Now and writing to your representatives. Maybe if there's an end to the genocide before November I'll be willing to vote for Biden.]

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 53 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You are a bad person if you don't vote against Trump, who is the actual comparison to Hitler.

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago

I'm voting against Trump and Biden. biden spent 50 years in power making trump possible.

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 45 points 8 months ago
[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

no, I'm probably voting for Jill Stein again, but I haven't stopped donating to cornel west yet

[-] CptEnder@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

So Trump supporter, got it. Please don't fucking be registered in Wisconsin.

Be useless somewhere else, thanks. - America

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

neither of them are trump. I think you have problems with reading comprehension.

and Im not registered in Wisconsin but I am in a swing state that went Obama Obama Trump Biden.

[-] BassaForte@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

When Trump wins your state, just know that you are personally responsible.

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

the only people responsible for trump winning are people who vote for him

[-] Micromot@feddit.de 11 points 8 months ago

If you simply look at the numbers, you will see that if for example trump gets 10 votes and biden gets 8. The people who have not voted for either one in this scenario are enabling Trump to win. This is only relevant in swing states though

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

The only candidate enabled by any vote is the candidate for whom that vote was cast

[-] Micromot@feddit.de 6 points 8 months ago

That is correct but you're still allowing the worse of two options to happen by not voting for the "better" but not good option

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

I'm going to vote for someone I want to win. I have a policy of not voting for people I don't want to win

[-] Micromot@feddit.de 6 points 8 months ago

Which would be valid if the US had an actual democracy and not whatever the current system is

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

it's valid regardless of your analysis.

[-] Micromot@feddit.de 4 points 8 months ago

Valid might have been a weird choice of words. I meant that your way of voting only works out in an actual democracy. The opinion is valid either way

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

my way of voting always works: the person for whom i vote is the person i want to win.

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

but if I vote for Biden I enable him to win. I don't want that, either

[-] Micromot@feddit.de 8 points 8 months ago

I wouldn't want him to win either but it is an alright compromise if the other option is trump

[-] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

While the votes are being counted, are you going to think "I hope Biden beats Trump" or "I hope Trump beats Biden"?

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago
[-] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You genuinely think neither of those two outcomes would be worse? Then I respect your position, but I do not agree.

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

i said i won't be hoping for either of them. i didn't rank them at all

[-] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

There are two possible outcomes. Will you hope for one, hope for the other, or not have a preference?

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

i'm hoping for neither.

[-] Waggles@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This guy thinks Navalny was a Nazi. He's just a Russian asset.

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago
[-] Waggles@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

It's more of an argument that your opinion is utter garbage based on your shit judgement.

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

it's not an argument at all. they are just attacks on my person rather than my position.

[-] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 45 points 8 months ago

I hope you gain the knowledge to see the bigger picture before November. Allowing Trump to win guarantees that the genocide continues and even grows. Biden, at least, is reasonable and not bloodthirsty. Work with the system so that you can change it. Because the alternative is to burn us all down for your own hubris and lack of awareness.

Allowing Trump to win guarantees that the genocide continues and even grows.

Allowing Biden to win guarantees that the genocide continues and even grows.

Biden, at least, is reasonable and not bloodthirsty.

"Reasonable and not bloodthirsty": expediting military aid to help the slaughter of children.

Work with the system so that you can change it.

Nothing I am doing is outside the system, and voting for Biden won't help change the system.

I hope you gain the knowledge to see the bigger picture before November... Because the alternative is to burn us all down for your own hubris and lack of awareness.

Hubris is thinking that because other people disagree with you they must be ignorant and lack awareness. Hubris is thinking that if other people act differently from you, we will all burn down.

[-] v_krishna@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago

Just a heads up that site picked the wrong district for me. The actual house site understands my zip is split between two districts (based on county lines) but this site picked the wrong one.

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