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[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

the only people responsible for trump winning are people who vote for him

[-] Micromot@feddit.de 11 points 8 months ago

If you simply look at the numbers, you will see that if for example trump gets 10 votes and biden gets 8. The people who have not voted for either one in this scenario are enabling Trump to win. This is only relevant in swing states though

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

The only candidate enabled by any vote is the candidate for whom that vote was cast

[-] Micromot@feddit.de 6 points 8 months ago

That is correct but you're still allowing the worse of two options to happen by not voting for the "better" but not good option

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

I'm going to vote for someone I want to win. I have a policy of not voting for people I don't want to win

[-] Micromot@feddit.de 6 points 8 months ago

Which would be valid if the US had an actual democracy and not whatever the current system is

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

it's valid regardless of your analysis.

[-] Micromot@feddit.de 4 points 8 months ago

Valid might have been a weird choice of words. I meant that your way of voting only works out in an actual democracy. The opinion is valid either way

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

my way of voting always works: the person for whom i vote is the person i want to win.

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

but if I vote for Biden I enable him to win. I don't want that, either

[-] Micromot@feddit.de 8 points 8 months ago

I wouldn't want him to win either but it is an alright compromise if the other option is trump

[-] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

While the votes are being counted, are you going to think "I hope Biden beats Trump" or "I hope Trump beats Biden"?

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago
[-] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You genuinely think neither of those two outcomes would be worse? Then I respect your position, but I do not agree.

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

i said i won't be hoping for either of them. i didn't rank them at all

[-] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

There are two possible outcomes. Will you hope for one, hope for the other, or not have a preference?

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

i'm hoping for neither.

this post was submitted on 27 Feb 2024
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