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And you all told me the blue maga border bill that Republicans rejected was 4d chess.

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[-] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

If America was truly as progressive as some people thought, a third party could sweep the Democrats with a popular progressive candidate.

Yeah fucking right. Money is the number one determining factor in candidate success, and after that it is the organizational power of the DNC. How deluded do you have to be to think that ANY third party is going to be able to muster populist support given the current economic & political paradigm. I'm sorry, but that is just so fucking naive I can't believe you even tried to float that.

[-] Count042@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

Jesus, get some reading comprehension skills. The person you're responding to agrees with you.

[-] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago
[-] Count042@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

They're arguing against voting for a third party, just as you are.

I don't agree with either of you, but this isn't about what I agree with or disagree with:

You're arguing that anyone voting for a third party is a waste, and that anyone arguing for that is naive.

The person you responded to is saying the same thing, but with more words, and the final paragraph arguing that if people are unhappy they should run or organize for political offices, rather than argue for or vote for a third party.

[-] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I guess you could potentially read that interpretation into what they said, but that is not how I personally took it. To me it seemed like they were arguing that if there was any real appetite for a progressive populist candidate that it would be possible to get them elected through grassroots support alone, and I just don't agree with that at all for the reasons that I already stated. The nature of the two party system is that it necessarily creates the artificial appearance of majority support for candidates that would otherwise not even represent a plurality within their own party a lot of the time.

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