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U.S. Rejects Putin’s Latest Call for Ukraine Negotiations
(www.nytimes.com)
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No, demanding your neighbours all remain weak enough for you to continue bullying is not perfectly reasonable at all
All of the countries near Russia that joined NATO did so because they already have their biggest aggressor on their doorsteps.
If buying stuff from the other side is your yardstick, NATO clearly wasn't a threat to Russia. Germany, Italy, France, and America were all some of Russia's largest import sources in 2021.
Yep, those Russian tanks that crossed into Ukrainian sovereign land were tanks of peace.
Those paratroopers were there to peacefully take the airport too
Oh cool, then neither is aggressor. Since they were both doing business with each other. Because apparently that's how it works.
Functionally illiterate troll does not understand "your argument is self-defeating nonsense" unless it's spelled out.
And I'm putting a lot of faith in the implication you understand it even now.
I'm sorry I misplaced that faith.
I am using your argument... to point out... your argument makes no god-damn sense. I don't believe your argument. I am highlighting how, if you believed your argument, you'd find it fucks up your conclusion. But you don't care.
You're just making mouth noises to justify a conclusion you picked well before any argument-shaped sentences.
Your excuses work the other way around, fool.
Can't really help you if your comprehension can't keep up.
It's your nonsense.
You said Russia can't be the aggressor, because Europe did business with them.
If we pretend that's relevant: it'd mean Europe can't be the aggressor either, because Russia did business with them. So I guess nobody invaded anybody?
Meanwhile in reality, Russia invaded Ukraine. Which is pretty goddamn aggressive. And exactly what Europe expected could happen. And in fact, part of what doing business with Russia was intended to prevent. Didn't work. Doesn't mean Europe was somehow at fault for the country that keeps invading its neighbors, invading its neighbors. A country that does so with such regularity, most of Europe is in the Stop Russia Invading Its Neighbors club (which borders with Russia, how dare they!), and Russia still invades its neighbors who aren't in the club. Whilst telling them: this is the stop-us-invading-you club's fault. Which is fucking nonsense.
Anyway your hot take on all this has been shuffling cards in search of relevant excuses, so I think we're done forever.
Lie better.
Yes. Creating co-dependencies and peacetime ties, in hopes of keeping relations normal and peaceful.
Belligerently existing near the border, how dare they. Did you see what they were wearing?
Word salad.