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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 176 points 1 year ago

Imagine voluntarily granting an advertising company direct access to your brain.

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 60 points 1 year ago

I can imagine for people who are disabled this is super exciting stuff.

[-] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 62 points 1 year ago

I can imagine for people who ~~are~~ want to be disabled this is super exciting stuff

Fixed that for you.

[-] flicker@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago

I work with a lot of disabled people and while obviously my sample size isn't large enough to write a paper, the ones capable of understanding consent all think this is a terrible, terrible idea.

[-] Voran@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I don't blame them. I can't imagine voluntarily getting brain surgery unless it was life or death.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

There is actually a strong feeling in much of the deaf/heard of hearing community against cochlear implants because it is "othering" them in the process.

[-] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Which is stupid because they were "othered" by their physical disability and are being returned to the fold by having that ability restored.

Also it's a minority of deaf egoists who think they're special because they lack normal capacity and turned their disability into their personality, not some strong feeling in much of the community.

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 13 points 1 year ago

I'd find it hard to believe people paralyzed from the neck down would share similar views.

[-] flicker@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Again it's not a huge pool, but one. One paralyzed lady who thinks this an atrocious idea. But I bet its more than you've asked personally!

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Why is that? I think it's a really exciting technology.

[-] flicker@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I lack the eloquence to describe the look on her face when she found out about it. But her answer was, "Oh, great, so I can trade in the problems I have now for new ones we can't even accommodate yet!"

She's very much an enemy you know type of person.

[-] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

Learning about cochlea implants right now in SLT school, this is beyond me lol

[-] Zink@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago

Being disabled in some area really makes you think “I had better take care of what I have left” rather than “what are my options for modifying and upgrading what is left?”

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

How many of them are paralyzed from the neck down?

[-] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

All the more reason to not let someone fuck with the last bit that works lest they set your brain on fire with nerve damage.

[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 40 points 1 year ago

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[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

“I can finally walk, but I really enjoy the bold rich flavor of PrimeCorp nutrition bar.”

[-] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Haha, too accurate

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

I think I'd choose walking personally

[-] nomous@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, everyone would. PrimeCorp stock would go through the roof, not least of all because of their delicious nutrition bars. So much value would be delivered to the shareholders, can you imagine it!?

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Who gives a shit if I could walk again. I wouldn't care who's profiting off of it.

This is frankly a ridiculous position.

Let's not allow people to walk as someone might make money. The horror.

[-] nomous@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It's not that serious, we're just cracking jokes on the internet. Of course we'd all pick walking, even if we suddenly got an insatiable hunger for delicious, satisfying PrimeCorp nutrition bars. The nutrition bar with legs!

[-] xantoxis@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Do you think someone in a wheelchair so much lesser a person that you automatically assume free access to their brain is adequate payment for legs? People who can't walk still have lives, and agency, and choices. This would be a choice, for everyone. You would choose walking because you've never had to compensate for losing it.

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

I'd 100% give it to get rid of my physical disabilities.

I also did specify paralyzed from the neck down which I assume gives people less agency.

[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

This kind of emerging technology preys upon those people's hopes of living a normal life again. I just recently saw a YouTube video of people who got implants to cure blindness (with a glasses-like device to bridge the gap) and once the company that produces them went out of business they ceased support for their units that were inevitably going to fail as all hardware does.

Elon Musk and Neuralink is no different. They're rushing this tech to market and they know it. High likelihood of it becoming abandonware, but improving the lives of their patients was never the goal. Making money is the goal.

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

All the advancements will still most likely help others down the line.

The tech exists now and that's still a big leap forward even if that particular company fucked people.

[-] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago

Could we somehow both have the advancements and not fucking people over? 🤔

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah pretty much every country except America runs their healthcare that way.

A big advantage of socialised medicine is the system has huge buying power and can enforce things like this when making contracts.

[-] xantoxis@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The fucking-people-over part is NOT a necessary part of the tech! You can have tech that gets stably supported with adequate safeguards in place to make sure patients get everything they need to keep them safe and working for the rest of their life--safeguards enforced by government mandates. Those are policy issues that we already know how to solve, we just don't, because we let tech companies do whatever the hell they want.

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah most places except America this is what would happen. It's a big advantage of nationalised medicine.

[-] Zealousideal_Fox900@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Linux neuralink edition gon be funnnnn

[-] psmgx@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

78 developers across the globe. No one can agree on direction and half drop out in 3 months to fork it. Several forks happen and they all fail, and a few survive but become mutually incompatible.

You download a poorly tested update via brain apt-get and lose the ability to use the letter k.

A successful fork takes off and everyone uses it but then IBM buys it. Now big blue owns your brain and charges insane licenses fees.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

You forgot to pay your subscription, and wake up blind. Your eyes have been deactivated until you bring your account current.

[-] Catoblepas 2 points 1 year ago

There’s already a company doing this with fall protection vests (airbags for cyclists basically). If you stop paying it stops working.

If I was a CEO personally I would not want my company to make a product intended to stop working and increase the risk of serious injury or death if the customer stops the subscription, but I’m not a super smart tech guy so I’m sure it’ll work out fine for them.

[-] Dud@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Probably the drivers I'd want to try to maintain and get working the least.

[-] Suburbanl3g3nd@lemmings.world 7 points 1 year ago

Until you accidentally think sudo rm / -rf...

[-] anarchy79@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't feel like advertisements in general are that much different. Constant assault, every medium, weaponized brain washing. I bet that given a cue you could perfectly hum the tunes of at least a hundred or so jingles that you weren't aware of infesting you brain.

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