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TranscriptAlabama suffocated a man to death in a gas chamber tonight after starving him so he wouldn't choke on his own vomit as they did it. And this was deemed perfectly legal by multiple courts in the vaunted American legal system.

That's what happens when you value institutions over people.

Link for more info: https://www.reuters.com/legal/alabama-prepares-carry-out-first-execution-by-nitrogen-asphyxiation-2024-01-25/

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[-] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago
[-] Lamps@lemm.ee 41 points 2 years ago

Chances are, an innocent person has been killed because of the death penalty. That alone has me against it entirely.

[-] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

That’s a chance we are just going to have to take.

[-] Lux 29 points 2 years ago

How many innocent people are you ok with murdering before it's no longer worth it?

[-] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Last I checked the guy they Nitrogen’d wasn’t innocent.

How many guilty killers are you ok with escaping punishment?

[-] Lux 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I am ok with every guilty killer not being executed if it means saving a single innocent person. Note that I did not say that I am ok with them being released.

I ask again, how many innocent people are you ok with murdering before it's no longer worth it?

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[-] Lamps@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

Do they just let them go free if they don’t execute them?

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[-] drcobaltjedi@programming.dev 26 points 2 years ago

Apt username.

"It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer" - William Blackstone.

Buddy are you so deprived of empathy that you have no problem with sending innocent people to their deaths? Are you okay with cops playing judge, jury, and executioner? Lot of innocent people die from cops deciding that its okay if that guy is dead.

[-] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

No, I’m happy to send this guy to meet his maker.

[-] drcobaltjedi@programming.dev 13 points 2 years ago

Literally avoided my questions. Why are you okay sending someone who is innocent to death?

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago
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[-] pugsnroses77@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago

what if it happens to you or your family? then is it still worth it?

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago

I don't see any "have to" in here at all. To me, that just looks like a desire to have the state murder people. That's not justice.

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[-] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 3 points 2 years ago

How is that a morally coherent stance? You're basically condoning state-sanctioned murder.

[-] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I’ve made it clear in multiple posts. I’m on the side of justice.

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

We don't have to, though. We can just put them in prison.

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[-] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 2 points 2 years ago

The problem is that if you get it wrong even once --and we know for a fact, through things like The Innocence Project, that many innocent people have been executed-- then it's the state committing murder in our name.

Morally I'm not OK with that. Are you?

I'd rather err on the side of caution.

Again, we only have to get it wrong once, which we know we have done, and it's basically the state murdering an innocent citizen.

How many innocent citizens are you OK with murdering?

[-] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Morally I’m ok with that, no system is perfect. We should strive to be as accurate as possible, but in the end we can only make the best conclusion based on the facts at hand. If a jury finds those facts compelling enough to vote to execute a defendant then so be it.

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