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TranscriptAlabama suffocated a man to death in a gas chamber tonight after starving him so he wouldn't choke on his own vomit as they did it. And this was deemed perfectly legal by multiple courts in the vaunted American legal system.

That's what happens when you value institutions over people.

Link for more info: https://www.reuters.com/legal/alabama-prepares-carry-out-first-execution-by-nitrogen-asphyxiation-2024-01-25/

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[-] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 291 points 2 years ago

He wasn't "starved", it says right there in the article that he was given his last meal this morning (Thursday) and allowed no solids after 10am because he suffered from nausea and was worried he'd vomit.

It's okay to be anti-execution but you don't have to make shit up to be inflammatory, there's plenty of other valid reasons to be against execution but making sure a man doesn't choke on his own vomit isn't one of them.

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[-] RiderExMachina@lemmy.ml 97 points 2 years ago

Honestly, if I were to choose suicide, I'd go for a nitrogen slumber. Seems like a painless way to go.

[-] Daefsdeda@sh.itjust.works 40 points 2 years ago

They didn't seem to do it correctly and it took a while. It described in the article but it is horrible.

[-] Commiunism@lemmy.wtf 68 points 2 years ago

Death penalty in the US and not doing it correctly, name a more fitting duo

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Obligatory Jacob Geller

Crazy how as our methods of execution get easier to watch, they get more torturous to the individual. Give me a firing squad or a guillotine any day. Y'all lethal inject me, I'm haunting your asses

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[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 25 points 2 years ago

Hmm, I think I'd choose "cocaine overdose".

[-] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 34 points 2 years ago

Sounds fun but it would be a horrible way to die.

2 grams of heroin would be the way to go I would think

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[-] mkhopper@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

Too dangerous. You might mis-judge the amount and just end up having a good time.

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[-] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 70 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

"Starving?"

I bet surgeons hate you

[-] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 54 points 2 years ago

Better go after every hospital for "starving" patients before surgery

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 50 points 2 years ago

Bluntly, choking on your own vomit is probably a really terrible way to die. If I recall correctly he was put in a chamber where the majority of the air in the room was replaced with nitrous oxide, asphyxiating the subject. If he had choked on his vomit, it would have been closer to drowning than suffocating in the manner that was intended.

By asphyxiating him in this way, his suffering was effectively eliminated during the execution; but if he had vomited and choked on it.... Well, I don't know if you've ever found yourself short of air in a body of water, but it's a pretty unpleasant experience. It only gets worse as you get closer to death when drowning (from what I've heard/understood from people who have nearly drown).

The intention of not giving him food so he didn't vomit, was a humane decision, not intended for additional suffering and cruelty.

Twisting the intent like this is doing a disservice to the entire process. You can dislike capital punishment all you want, and I may even agree that it shouldn't be done, but the fact is, this statement is misleading at best. I'm all for a healthy discussion on it, but let's not conflate the issue with these misconceptions.

[-] DamienGramatacus@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

He took 22 minutes or so to die. Guards in the room said it was awful to watch. His suffering was INCREASED by using this untested method. But then that was surely the point...

[-] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 years ago

The method wasn't untested, it's been done plenty before. The specific tools they used to do it were moronic and they didn't fully understand how to do it properly. Basically they just didn't do their homework.

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[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 years ago

I believe it was a mask with nitrogen.

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[-] squiblet@kbin.social 48 points 2 years ago

Sennett was found dead in her home March 18, 1988, with eight stab wounds in the chest and one on each side of her neck. Smith was one of two men convicted in the killing. The other, John Forrest Parker, was executed in 2010.

Prosecutors said they were each paid $1,000 to kill Sennett on behalf of her pastor husband, who was deeply in debt and wanted to collect on insurance.

[-] Naich@kbin.social 70 points 2 years ago

Yes, a complete barbarian. We have them too, but we aspire to be better than just being equally barbaric in return. That's why civilisations do justice, not revenge.

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[-] pugsnroses77@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 years ago

even for 1988 thats not a huge chunk of money. poverty is the biggest driver of crime. imagine if we reinvested all the money we pour into prisons into actually taking care of people

[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 19 points 2 years ago

Yeah, and you know what stuck out to me in the article? That the conservative justices said, he was “gaming the system” for too long with…appeals and requests for stays…and that justice wasn’t done until he was murdered.

Like…he was gaming the system by rotting in prison? So these arbiters of justice think justice is only an eye for an eye and these prisons they adore so much are not brutal enough?

[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 16 points 2 years ago

Sounds like the husband killed her with his wallet. He wielded this guy like the guy wielded a knife.

It's absurd to think that killing him would really bring any more peace to the children than destroying the knife.

If anything, having to bear witness to endless appeals and proceedings for 35 years prolongs their torture. I'd really like to see a form of justice that focuses on ensuring the peace and stability of the victims and their family rather than the pain and suffering of the perpetrators.

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[-] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is what happens when education systems fail. They produce people who don't know what the hell they are talking about.

I'm assuming this person isn't intentionally trying to deceive.

[-] crumbtalk@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

And this was after botching a first execution where the execution team had some questionable judgement

[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 years ago

love how we can murder criminals but if i want to murder myself legally, it's impossible.

Thanks guys, very cool.

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