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Everyone told you last time that voting in biden would make Trump inevitable next time around and now that's playing out for you. Meanwhile your response is to bully women, muslims, and black people into voting for a guy who is openly against their fundamental human dignities? get over yourselves.
He did nothing to stop Roe v Wade overturning. He did nothing to stop Palestine being massacred. He did nothing to stop the insane levels of transphobia in red states. He did nothing to address basic economic hardships. He did nothing to stop kids being killed at the southern border. Anyone who wants to be complicit in that (like the dozen or so people who consistently spam lemmy with this virtue signalling BS) can go right ahead and watch as their golden boy gets throttled by a fascist populist just as people fucking warned you about.
Sorry, what was he supposed to do... assassinate Clarence Thomas?
Yes
Pack the court, or force congress to give statehood to DC and PR which would give Dems ability to approve appointees. These are just off the top of my head.
How would he go about this legally?
He can't even force congress to pass his stated agenda. How the hell could he force congress to do that?
No point in arguing with a guy who never passed a basic civics course.
Okay, well then talk to me instead and explain how those two things could be achieved.
I think they meant there's no point in you arguing with the other person. The one who said that to you isn't the same person who doesn't understand civics.
Ah, my apologies.
Yeah, sorry, wasn't referring to you not knowing. The other idiot clearly doesn't know.
I was confused myself about who responded to me, so I apologize too.
Big assumption about me, but okay. Keep assuming everyone you disagree with is dumb and I'm sure it will work out well for you.
Working out pretty well so far. Your comments to other posts though indicate my assumption is not an incorrect one.
End the filibuster in 2021 like many many people advised him to do so Republicans couldn't obstruct the entire term. It's really not complicated.
How exactly would Biden, in the executive branch, end the filibuster, which is in the legislative branch?
Do you even understand about the idea of the separation of powers?
You understand he leads the Democratic party, which is in Congress, right?
So? That, again, is not how the separation of powers works. The president cannot order an end to the filibuster. That is not something within his power set.
Only the senate can end the filibuster and only through a vote.
He may "lead the Democratic party," but he does not lead the senate and there is no reason that the senate Democrats have to do what he wants. I can only think you are very ignorant about the U.S. government or you would know that Sinema and Manchin would never have agreed to that.
I mean you don't have to take my word for it, take Manchin's- https://www.manchin.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/manchin-again-reiterates-his-commitment-to-protecting-filibuster
I get it, you passed the civics course your football coach taught. There are many real powers politicians have that aren't written into bylaws. Trump still has the entire GOP by the balls despite being out for 3+ years, but Biden gets a pass for being unable to whip 2 senators.
Insulting me doesn't explain how Biden could end the filibuster when Manchin was dead set against it. Why do you think he could whip those two senators on ending the filibuster when he couldn't even do it to get his agenda passed without making huge concessions?
Also, why on Earth do you think whipping senators is the president's job when there is literally a person called the majority whip?
I mean if you aren't aware of that, and you don't seem to be, I'm not sure you should be insulting other people about their civics knowledge.
Do you think Trump gave a shit about the opinion of 1 senator or that his whip tells him what they're going to do with strategy? Do you think the whip has equal influence as the President in party leadership? Do you think any successful president has operated without heavy strategic coordination and oversight to Congressional leadership?
All of what you are saying is literally factual, but it's incomplete and naive to how party politics works. Biden is ineffective because he can't direct his own party. Blame Manchin, Sinema, or Houdini if you want, but an effective leader would have succeeded in bringing them in line.
Can you give an example of Trump getting the senate to do what he wanted when a majority of senators was against it please?
How about McConnell?
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/one-year-ago-republicans-condemned-jan-6-insurrection-yesterday-their-response-was-far-more-muted
So your example of Trump forcing the senate to do something they were against while president is an article about something that happened a year after he was president? I'm not even sure what the relevant part of that article is.
He has more influence as an ex-president than Biden did in year 1
This is what I asked:
How is that article an example of such a thing? Can you quote the relevant portion please?
The entire point of whipping is influence and coercion and not literal power enunciated in a charter, bylaw, constitution, or parliamentary procedure you seem to be looking for.
The author does on to describe the "GOP’s transformation into the Party of Trump" but Trump didn't do any of this by some manipulation of enumerated power as taught in high school civics about the separation of powers. He did it by appealing to voters and forcing Senators to follow him.
Biden can't appeal to Democrats on things the public already favors because he is a poor leader.
Again, this is what I asked for:
You showed me him changing Lindsay Graham's mind.
That is not what I asked for.
The fact is, you cannot produce what I ask for because the president does not control the senate.
He can't make a justice retire, and he can't appoint new justices until a sitting one quits or dies. The president needs Congress to increase the size of the court, so that's not an option to him either. The president cannot "force Congress" to do anything. He certainly can't force them to create new states on his whim.
If the presidency had that kind of power Trump would have used it when he was in office, though to much different ends.