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What? Europe very sound protection for the disabled. Putside of historical buildings built before disability care you won't find better access anywhere.
I get America is pretty good too, but your comment makes it sound like Europe is a nightmare for the disabled.
I get that Europe is pretty good too, but the OP makes it sound like America is a nightmare for the disabled.
You do see my point, you just don't like it.
If you wouldn't have put the last sentence into your first comment, your point would be fine. Same with your second comment
My comment is mild compared to the OP.
OP was hyperbolic and even tho, tu quoque arguments aren't very strong
It never even occurred to you that perhaps I wasn't being deadly serious and absolutely literal either?
No.
But that's the point: Most buildings were built before disability care, and haven't been upgraded.* Think about your favorite restaurant, bar, kebab place, corner shop etc. – I don't think any of mine are wheelchair accessible. Also good luck taking a train in Germany, where many platforms aren't wheelchair accessible and they might or might not have a lift to get you into the train.
The Americans with Disabilites Act (ADA) is miles ahead of any legal framework that I'm aware of in Europe. The US is a broken country in many ways, but that doesn't mean that literally anything and everything has to be worse than in glorious Europe.
*The former is true for the US too, but the ADA still required many of them to make reasonable accomodations.
All have wheelchair ramps. Even the townhall that was built in the 1700s has a wheelchair ramp, as does the church built in the 1400s.
I only know a handful of places that are in the centre of dense cities that don't have them.
Then if I wanted to make comparisons to the US, yes lots of buildings are wheelchair acceptable, but they still expect you to drive between those buildings, even if you're disabled, so sidewalks and crossing points are abysmal.
Not sure about how good or bad it is in the US, but in the Netherlands (a place that is known for good infrastructure) it's definitely not perfect.
I never realised until we got a baby and I started walking with a stroler. Way too often the sidewalk is inaccessible because of cars or bicycles. Also lots of places without ramps or elevators.
You have a sidewalk, that is obstructed sometimes. Having a sidewalk puts in like the top 10% of countries instantly lol
Wait next thing you tell me is that I can't complain about having too many people on bicycles on the bicycle roads?
You guys actually have bicycle roads...