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submitted 10 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said the reelection of former President Trump would be the “end of democracy” in an interview released Saturday by The Guardian.

“It will be the end of democracy, functional democracy,” Sanders said in the interview.

The Vermont senator also said in the interview that he thinks that another round of Trump as the president will be a lot more extreme than the first.

“He’s made that clear,” Sanders said. “There’s a lot of personal bitterness, he’s a bitter man, having gone through four indictments, humiliated, he’s going to take it out on his enemies. We’ve got to explain to the American people what that means to them — what the collapse of American democracy will mean to all of us.”

Sanders’s words echo those President Biden made in a recent campaign speech during which he said that Trump’s return to the presidency would risk American democracy. The president highlighted the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol in an attempt to cement a point about Trump and other Republicans espousing a kind of extremism that was seen by the world on that day.

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[-] Rooskie91@discuss.online 16 points 10 months ago

America isn't even the most democratic democracy in the world tho.

[-] Skua@kbin.social 34 points 10 months ago

How is this a counter to what he said? The second-most democratic country in the world isn't the most democratic either, it'd still be a bad thing for it to lose its democracy

[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

Yeah so maybe lets not let the Republicans fick it up even worse.

[-] apt_install_coffee@lemmy.ml 16 points 10 months ago

America isn't even the most democratic country in the Americas, but that's clearly not the point they're making.

If the title was "...end of world democracy" you'd have a point but given how much fascistic rhetoric and policy has increased around the world since trunpism it's fair to say many countries are following the US lead here.

[-] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago
[-] Skua@kbin.social 14 points 10 months ago

It's usually the Nordics and New Zealand topping the rankings each year, depending on which index you ask

[-] Rincewindnz@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Sadly it feels (unsure about factual numbers) that NZ is heading to similar styles as the US in terms of politics.

Two elections ago our slightly right of centre main party used popularist Trump/MAGA style campaigning and got slammed for it.

However the latest govt has bypassed a bunch of good process (using urgency) to just repeel a bunch of stuff the previous govt put in place.

[-] nbafantest@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This isn't necessarily a bad thing. The most possible democracy would require every single government decision requiring a vote by its citizens.

It would be pure chaos and incompetent

[-] Rincewindnz@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I think using process is pretty important and urgency should be used when needed, not just to get a bunch of anti-the last regime policies through.

This is how I understand our governments movements. Everything they have done this with this time could have gone through proper process.

Our leader even said that his politicians were uninterested in hearing what experts in the fields think or what the longer term issues might be from the decisions.

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