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[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 14 points 8 months ago

Negotiate? He's suggesting things would've gone better if we'd agreed to mostly keep slavery but soften it a little in exchange for concessions? Well, that's horrifying.

[-] admiralteal@kbin.social 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

That precise negotiation is how we got the civil war, as well as a number of other completely busted, antidemocratic US institutions like the Senate. Making compromises with slavers.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's all so bad. The House should have thousands of members to give states proportional representation, but instead Alabama votes count for more than California votes. In turn, this makes the electoral* college unbalanced too in the same way. There's a huge bias towards rural voting power.

*damn auto correct 😠

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 5 points 8 months ago

And then people act like "real America" is like a suburb in Ohio or rural parts of Louisiana.

There's ~4 million people in Louisana. There's ~8 million people in New York City alone. Cities are as or more "real" than the other parts.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

this makes the electrical college unbalanced

Yeah they really need to get some more positively charged ions up in that bitch

[-] nbafantest@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

To be fair, California hasn't built any new housing in 60 years.

California could have 60-70 million people. Instead we are just handing 30 million voters over to Republican states.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

That, paradoxically, increases California's proportional voting power. Popular vote doesn't decide elections.

[-] nbafantest@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

If California had 70million citizens, current district sizes are around 700k. So it would have about 100 districts. It would have about 1/5th of the total electoral college vote.

It's honestly insane that New York and Cali have purposefully handed over political power to republicans since the 60s.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

As I understand it, because every state still has to have at least 1 House member (and thus 1 electoral college vote). Without increasing the size of the House then all that can do is reduce the proportional power of each vote within California. The State itself becomes more powerful, sure, but the votes of citizens within California are worth less and less as the population grows. It's a really bad system.

[-] nbafantest@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Each district is roughly 700k people. A few districts are bigger, a few are smaller.

California could completely dominate the US House of Representatives and the electoral college.

A state becomes more powerful by having more people.

California has much much more power than Wyoming, even tho each voter in Wyoming might have a tiny bit more power than each voter in Cali.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

Yeah, but it's not just Wyoming. It's all the little flyover states all teaming up against big bad California, and using their disproportionate electoral power to do so - it's the reason we've had multiple presidents that lost the electoral college, after all.

[-] nbafantest@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Yeah sure they can get 20 extra electoral college votes combined, but California would have 20-30 more itself. California just handed these over to republicans by refusing to build housing for 60 years.

New York has done the same.

We've just handed tons of political power over Republicans, who already have a natural advantage.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago

Hard to know with Trump.

His usual way of "negotiating" is to demand what he wants is the limit, while demanding that the other party capitulate to whatever is best for Trump.

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