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submitted 1 year ago by alyaza@beehaw.org to c/politics@beehaw.org

(link is to the Supreme Court's opinion document)

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[-] Dandylion@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

I'm in my mid-40s and I didn't go to college -- I was one of the last generations where you didn't HAVE HAVE HAVE to have an advanced degree to qualify for something like an admin assistant position.

I truly hope that the younger generations take this as an opportunity to stand up for themselves and stop feeding into the notion that everyone needs advanced degrees. It's absurd. If no one has a degree, then they can't demand that people have degrees. Degrees should be for engineers, doctors, people with advanced careers. Past that, it's simply a money making scheme for colleges and a bullshit bill of goods that they're selling to people who cant, and shouldn't have to, pay for it.

[-] JDPoZ@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Framing here's a bit off. You shouldn't have to go to school - sure... as a requirement... but the big thing that's completely being missed (as we have been taught that college is for "fancy" jobs) is that in other decent countries... there is no cost to it.

Advanced educated populaces are seen by non - "authoritarian-run-shit-holes" as something that makes a country more economically competitive in an increasingly global job market.

Whether it's being paid to learn on the job training with a welding apprenticeship subsidized by taxes, or being able to go to medical school via tax-subsidized funds that don't create artificial barriers to entry for the poor for no other reason - it's a good thing for advanced education (and pre-school and every other form of education) to be publicly funded.

[-] averyminya@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

It's especially dismaying when you look at plans for states like Arizona to "stipend" for private education and rid them of public education.

The idea of giving a stipend for education isn't a bad thing. It's actually a great idea.

But compounded with the fact that historically private schools are more than happy to raise tuition and how historically certain demographics are cherry picked as more or less deserving of receiving funding, it's clear that the policies they are aiming to lower homeschooling requirements, pump money into private religious schools, and lower education quality/specifically teach what they see is worth teaching.

And the 10 states you'd expect to implement this are making moves to do so.

[-] maporita@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

But.. those who do go to university and get a degree will earn substantially more in their lifetimes than those who don't. Why should bus drivers have to subsidize the education of lawyers?

[-] Kalothar@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That isn’t always the case and that is part of the problem?

Why should a bus driver get all the benefits of a modern society? These things were created by lawyers and engineers to make that bus an invention, with safety features for said bus driver, and policies/regulations allowing her to operate a bus.

Yeah, what you say sounds nice until you realize we live in a world that already exists and everything is intertwined.

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