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[-] doingless@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

Just keep voting Democrat, they'll do it the next time they have the votes!

[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 23 points 10 months ago

Out of curiosity when was the last time they had the votes? 2021 was only a majority with the help of 2 Independents and a VP tiebreaker, 2007 had 49 + 2 and 1 vacancy, went down to 48.

Let's give DNC 60 seats and see what happens.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

We saw. They killed the public option.

There are always enough Manchins.

[-] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 4 points 10 months ago

Yay neoliberalism!

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

There are always enough Manchins.

But dont you know? We "have" to run conservatives in "purple" areas or we wont win?

/S /S /S /S

Or alternatively, " We don't actually give a single fuck about our campaign or your political priorities. We don't want the policies you do, we just want you to get us into power"

[-] TheChurn@kbin.social 12 points 10 months ago

Last time they had 60 seats they waited until someone died so they didn't have 60 seats anymore.

[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 10 points 10 months ago

Right, I'm very forgetful I apologize, I suppose from Sept 25 2009 to February 4th they had 58 + 2 making 60, Although technically Roland Buris wasn't actually appointed to the vacant seat left by Obama until January, meaning they were filibuster proof for 2 months.

During that time very few laws were passed but the number of Public Law numbers went from 111-63 to 111-138, most of them being the appointment of new government postal buildings and a couple veteran affairs buildings, but also including mandates Human Rights that the Justice Department had to start respecting.

I feel like they could have done better with more time than that, but you've made an excellent point and I concede there.

[-] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Let’s give DNC 60 seats and see what happens.

Absolutely not. Any vote for the Democrats is a vote for corruption. Voting for another party is our only choice. I'm voting Green.

[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 14 points 10 months ago

I welcome you and your option to vote green, I hope that it's a viable choice in the upcoming election or at least that your representative gets enough votes and signatures to keep the party on the ballot next election cycle. I agree that the DNC is far too moderate as a whole to fully align with my goals. I'm sure my representatives will love caucusing and working alongside them. However, my expectations for a third party before any campaign finance laws or election reforms pass are very low, and if your district is highly contested between DNC and GOP and you decide to piss your vote away on a candidate with 6% chance, then you're just committing self harm in my eyes.

[-] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

my expectations for a third party before any campaign finance laws or election reforms pass are very low, and if your district is highly contested between DNC and GOP and you decide to piss your vote away on a candidate with 6% chance, then you’re just committing self harm in my eyes.

Third party voters know that the strategy is to force the duopoly to change in order to gain back our votes to win. That's always been the strategy, the electoral system is in place to prevent another party from winning.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 3 points 10 months ago

Hey you, stop it with that nuance! This is ~~reddit~~ lemmy!

[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 4 points 10 months ago

Nah actually they were right, there was a supermajority for over a month in 2010 that I forgot about.

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