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[-] ShaunaTheDead@kbin.social 189 points 1 year ago

To those that are saying they don't see a problem with this mod. Let me put it to you this way. Instead of a mod that turned one gay woman into a straight man what if it turned one black character into a white character?

There literally was a mod like that in Stardew Valley that turned Demetrius into a white character, and it was rightfully deleted from Nexus mods. If someone has that much of a problem with a character being a different race, sex, gender, or sexual identity then they're clearly bigoted no matter what they say to the contrary.

It's gay erasure, and it's bigotry, plain and simple.

[-] muse@kbin.social 86 points 1 year ago

The creator of the mod actually wanted to do just that. He wanted to turn Wyll white, erase all LGBT references, and make Mizhena a trans person who regretted their decision and detransitioned.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 year ago

Imagine being that insecure

Eesh. Bet we all can guess who that modder voted for :(

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[-] tal@lemmy.today 73 points 1 year ago

I have no problem with a mod that changes someone's sexual orientation, someone's race, someone's species, or just plain removes or adds new characters. Why would I care how someone else is playing a game?

[-] SkyeStarfall 95 points 1 year ago

Neither do they have a right to a platform, hence, deleted off of the platform.

[-] SasquatchBanana@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

Exactly this. Play the game you want, but that shit shouldn't be platformed.

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[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You don't have to care. No one does. No one is blocking this from working.

It's just not being listed on Nexus.

Moreover this mod wasn't giving options to players to choose how they wanted to play, it was changing very specific things and advertising it. Nexus doesn't care to let them use their platform to advertise a mod made for a very specific audience of really shitty people.

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago

No one does.

This is patently false because if no one cares, it wouldn't have been removed. It was only removed because enough people cared and spoke up about it. Even just reading this thread makes it clear that plenty of people care about it.

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 year ago

This comment would mean anything if they had said "no one cares," but what they said was "no one has to care"

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[-] affiliate@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

rugged individualism is not the path to a functioning society. in any society worth living in there are certain views that cannot be tolerated. the kind of bigotry expressed by the mod creator is one of those views that cannot be tolerated.

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[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

It really depends, but in general if you feel that lgbt characters or black characters hinder your enjoyment of the game enough to bother modding them away or different then it speaks about who you are in a way that tells me that I dislike you

[-] Cornpop@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Right? Like who gives a fuck lol it’s their game. If they aren’t comfortable with gay characters because they are still in the closet or some shit they should be able to play a game without it if they want.

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 year ago

And they can, and if Nexus has a problem with hosting homophobic mods, they should be able to not host them

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[-] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago

Because their target is to reduce diversity

[-] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 1 year ago

To those that are saying they don’t see a problem with this mod. Let me put it to you this way. Instead of a mod that turned one gay woman into a straight man what if it turned one black character into a white character?

There literally was a mod like that in Stardew Valley that turned Demetrius into a white character, and it was rightfully deleted from Nexus mods. If someone has that much of a problem with a character being a different race, sex, gender, or sexual identity then they’re clearly bigoted no matter what they say to the contrary.

It’s gay erasure, and it’s bigotry, plain and simple.

The best thing about mods is that they only effect the person playing with them. I really don't get the upset over it. Oh, no, someone else might play a version of this game with less gay (or whatever else offends you). I just can't bring myself to have the energy to be angry about how other people have modded their game when it only effects them.

[-] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago

You can still play the mod! It's not outlawed or anything. It's just that Nexus didn't want it on their website. He can easily distribute that Mod elsewhere. It was Nexus's choise and they choose to get rid of it.

[-] glitches_brew@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

As they have every right to do.

Sure, you have freedom of speech, but no, you don't have the right to use my megaphone to say stupid shit.

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[-] StorminNorman@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

No, they effect everyone. By publishing the mod, the creator told the world exactly how they feel about this subject. If it were the case as you put it, then they'd just create the mod and use it solely for themselves and not tell anyone. It's still despicable, but at least they aren't going to hurt anyone as no-one can stumble across it. Instead, they made a choice and the backlash they've received is a consequence of that choice.

[-] SkyeStarfall 22 points 1 year ago

Also it's very tiring for minorities to constantly exist in a hostile world. Imagine knowing that every place you go to has at least someone outright decrying your existence.

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

Cis straight people generally can't fathom how it actually feels to exist in a place where the idea that you shouldn't exist is a popular one. Some douchebag is gonna act like some psycho on the internet saying "kill all straights" is somehow equivalent to one of the major political parties literally platforming on your nonexistence.

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[-] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

So if it made all the good guys white and all the bad guys black we shouldn't be concerned? And if it replaced the dialogue to include racial slurs, no big deal? Why should anyone have an issue with hateful content circulating online?

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[-] affiliate@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

so many of the replies read like entries to a libertarian contest. and in traditional fashion it seems they forgot to actually read your comment. it’s nice to see a post that understands why the mod is a problem and explains it well, even if so many in the replies seem unable to grasp it.

[-] Woht24@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

'the mod is a problem'.

Only if you give a fuck, which is far too prevalent in the world. Could be swapping men for women, blacks for whites, whites for blacks and whatever other combination, the real question is, why do you care who thinks what?

I'm truly for all free expression, the world is too concerned with every fucking thing these days, it's an illness.

[-] affiliate@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Only if you give a fuck, which is far too prevalent in the world

you’re acting like things can’t harm people if they don’t care about them. this is not the case.

why do you care who thinks what?

because people’s thoughts influence their actions

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