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[-] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 96 points 2 years ago

After a decade and an astronomical amount of money spent, this thing is still in pre-alpha. People have left school, got married, have kids, played and forgotten No Man's Sky, Elite Dangerous, and now Starfield, and there is still no Star Citizen.

It's time to accept that Star Citizen will NEVER be released, because what Chris Roberts is selling is "dream as a service" which can be anything you want it to be, and one that never has to end for as long as the "game" is still in development.

The moment an actual product is released is the moment the flow of money will stop.

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 51 points 2 years ago

I once saw a comment on a SC update video from a guy who claimed to have backed up SC as a teenager, went to college, entered the industry, was part of a team from start to shipping a video game. twice, and still SC is in pre-alpha. He said that now as a veteran of the industry he realizes that SC is a scam. Like, 99% of the stuff they hyped as their envelope breaking new tech for video games, has already been done by dozens of games at a fraction of the cost.

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

Yeah, server meshing at the scale they did it has been possible for years. The issue is overlapping it at the planetary and multi system scale for hundreds of thousands of people and all of their inventory objects simultaneously.

They essentially just handed these objects to a master server that has to monitor all of them, instead of having each client server doing it individually. It's like a backup technology that can respawn all tracked items in the event of a server failure. They've basically just added redundancy. I don't foresee performance being improved when this overlord monitoring server inevitably gets taxed to capacity tracking everyone's shit.

[-] drislands@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Do you happen to have a link? I'd be interested in reading more.

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Dude, it was a random comment on a YT video about 8 months ago. I have zero chance of finding it again. It's just an anecdote. So, as much as I hate to say it, just…trust me bro.

[-] Epicmulch@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago

You know you can literally play the game right now?

[-] Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz 37 points 2 years ago

You can play an alpha build of an unfinished game.

[-] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago

Pre-alpha build. After more than a decade.

If Star Citizen is a person it would be starting junior high/middle school now.

[-] guacupado@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

The state of Star Citizen is right now is on par with a lot of games on "release." This is as much an insult to the gaming industry in general as it is a compliment to Star Citizen.

[-] orrk@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

it's just a straight-up fact that games ARE more complex now than they used to be, you can recreate og DOOM in just a few weeks, but RDR2, a game that had a ready engine, and a lot of assets was already in development while the first RDR wasn't out yet, that's 8 years of straight up development

[-] Shadywack@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Technically true, you can play the current build of a game that's been in perpetual development with distractive milestones continually added so as to distract you from the promises made in years past.

[-] infinitepcg@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

It's so frustrating to see people in this thread posting objectively false statements about SC. Yes, it's behind schedule and yes it suffers from scope creep. But it's not a scam and it's not vaporware. People who give them money know exactly what they are getting into. You can buy a ship now and fly it immediately. You can spend hundreds of hours in the game in it's current state. Even pointing out that it's playable gets downvotes.

[-] Heavybell@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

"Pre-alpha" would be if they hadn't started coding. It's alpha. There's something you can play, it's just buggy and incomplete and thus not beta. Alpha for this long has enough stigma, you don't need to exaggerate like that.

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