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Nobody says it anymore (startrek.website)

I've heard it explained that "hey" used to be more of an urgent way to get someone's attention, rather than a casual "hello" like it is now, so it sounded rude to some older folks.

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[-] i_dont_want_to 62 points 2 years ago

I'm glad that the attitude that if you don't speak "correctly," then you are not worth engaging with is dying out.

Well, on the grammar front, anyway.

I'm glad the "not worth engaging with" attitude is dying out, but I do still think it's important to push for people to communicate accurately and effectively, which includes understanding and following grammatical rules when needed.

Language and vocabulary are essential to how we think and collectively problem-solve.

[-] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago

There's got to be movement on both sides to a common understanding. If one side won't budge, then fuck 'em.

The point of language is to communicate information.

If the information was successfully relayed, the language exchange was successful.

If the person knows you MEAN "hello, I would like two of these items here, thank you good sir. hands cash and cashier says thank you You're welcome. Have a pleasant day, sir" when you SAY "Sup, two please. Thanks man. No problem have a good one." then you have successfully languaged.

So when my wife with a plethora of issues involving word recall says some insane thing because she can't remember the right words, as long as I understand what she means, her language did it's job.

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago

It should of died out long ago and on the side of academic linguistics did, but on the internet sadly not so much

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

should of

Why do you want to hurt us so?

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

Because these who feel hurt by this deserve to be hurt. No tolerant for intolerance

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

There's descriptive and there's prescriptive linguistics. The first is the scientific endeavor of finding out and explaining how a language works. The second is the realm of anal politicians from the colonialist era who used language as an oppression tool to suppress local cultures and force the hegemonic culture upon indigenous people to make it easier to dominate, eradicate and subjugate them. Currently regarded as one of the defining elements of Genocides. For examples see, Spanish, French, English, Russian, German, Dutch, Portuguese, Mandarin … well you get the idea.

[-] schmidtster@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I think they are finding that they will be lonely if they want to continue to follow that path.

[-] Rainonyourhead@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

People using they/them pronouns:

[-] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I think it’s all about context. Sometimes things are formal, sometimes things are informal. The ability to participate in either situation is important.

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