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submitted 11 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

Had Donald Trump been the U.S. president hosting this week’s APEC meetings, I have no doubt that the headline from the event would have been unchanged. It would have been: “He’s a dictator.”

The only difference is it would be Xi Jinping who was saying it to describe Trump.

Other than that, though, a Trump-hosted APEC meeting would likely have been unrecognizably different from the successful and productive forum hosted by President Joe Biden.

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[-] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Biden did not "skillfully handle" this at all. He foolishly damaged relations with China even further by calling Xi a dictator after going to the trouble of planning this summit.

If you cowards would vote for the Green party or any other party this wouldn't be a problem. Instead, you support the Democrats who don't even try to repair the damage the Republicans do. They both get rich from it together.

[-] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago

Third party votes in a First Past the Post voting system are a protest at best and counter-productive at worst.

[-] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Your plan is to keep voting for people who don't support ranked choice voting.

My plan is to vote for people who support ranked choice voting.

[-] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

It makes perfect sense when you don’t think about it.

[-] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

You don’t know my plan or my motivations.

[-] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago
[-] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Sure as shit not a third party candidate.

[-] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

So someone who does not support ranked choice voting. Great strategy lol.

[-] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

You think throwing away your vote on a candidate who claims to support electoral reform but has no chance of winning will have any meaningful impact?

[-] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

They won't have a chance to win if you don't vote for them.

[-] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

They might if they joined a real party instead of a troupe cosplaying as politicians.

You want change, you join one of the real parties and fight to become a candidate in that party and gain enough influence to shift party policy.

If everyone that did the third party nonsense did that, there might be enough support in a real party to start changing things and maybe eventually make third parties viable instead of just a performative game.

[-] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

That didn't work, Bernie is an independent that tried running as a Dem, but undemocratic super delegates and a biased media stopped him.

AOC and the justice democrats also failed and do whatever Nancy Pelosi says

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[-] Neato@kbin.social 19 points 11 months ago
[-] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

If Jill Stein was working for Putin why would she publicly show herself sitting at the same table?

[-] Neato@kbin.social 22 points 11 months ago

If Republicans were working for Putin would they fly to Moscow on the 4th of July?

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[-] osarusan@kbin.social 15 points 11 months ago

Oh man, what a defense!

"Your honor, if I was the murderer, why would I have been at the scene of the crime, holding the murder weapon in my hand? I mean, that would be too obvious!"

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[-] Throbbing_Banjo@midwest.social 10 points 11 months ago

You can't actually think that's a credible defense, come on now

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Are you actually saying someone who works for Putin wouldn't publicly show herself with Putin?

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[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Why would i shoot myself in the dick when I could just watch you shoot yourself in the dick?

[-] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

You do that every time you vote Democrat or Republican

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Yes, every time I vote D, I watch you shoot yourself in the dick.

[-] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I'm glad I didn't vote for genocide.

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

You did, you’re just too blind to see it.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Because I'm sure whoever you vote for has a good chance of getting into office. For sure the president in 2024 will be neither Biden nor Trump. It'll be whoever you vote for. It's not like we only have two viable options or anything...

[-] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Ironically the polling is showing RFK has a reasonable chace of winning. That opens up the lane for Jill Stein to compete as well.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

No it doesn't. No poll shows he has a reasonable chance of winning. That's a lie.

[-] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

20% absolutely is. He can easily gain 10% more to get to 30% and win it.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

How can he 'easily gain 10%?' Why would it be easy? You say a lot of things without any evidence to support them.

Also, that was a telephone poll, so it was extremely inaccurate.

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[-] osarusan@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago

Lol I haven't laughed so hard all day! Thank you, I needed that.

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