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Not by making the same mistakes the US did in afganistan and iraq.
Bombs dont kill terrorists, it creates them
dats not answering the question X3
how do they get rid of hamas quickly and efficiently? remember the being attacked from three different countries part!
You're talking as if hamas appeared a month ago. Israel had many oportunities to get rid of hamas and chose not to do so.
Israel seems to know the precise location of every tunnel (at least the ones below refugee camps and hospitals), and yet failed to see 1000 terrorists training at its doorstep for more than a year.
If you're thinking that the current situation is not desired by Netanyahu, you are severely mistaken.
And no, i dont need to bring peace to middle east to know that killing children is wrong.
thats not answering the question tho! it's happening now, war in gaza, israel forces searching for hamas and hostages. what do? :o
Sure you win. Lets kill all the babies, i'm sure the parents wont become terrorists in the future.
eheh, nooo~ X3
we have to not kill the babies!
But you said its the only way! Lets kill all the palistinian children! Lets go!
noo, i never said all that! that was baro who said no to a ceasefire!
you wanna hear my solution? :o
Sure, please tell me your solution for world peace. Please include an acceptable ratio of dead terrorists to dead children, or else i wont know how to think.
(I just want you to know that even though i disagree with you i respect you as a human being, and if i'm being too sarcastic i'm sorry)
pls don't make fun of me for my idea, you can make fun of it, but not me! I'm just an idol okay? i sing and dance, i am not a general!!! (；′⌒`)
Amnesty International, the IDF, the US, the EU and the UN all condemn Hamas for using this particular hospital as a base. There has already been footage of Hamas militants using the Hospital. Back in the 80s, Israel expanded the hospital's amenities while also constructing an underground complex for the safety of medical staff. It's unclear how long Hamas has been using it to shelter their forces, the earliest report was in 2008. Here's proof, proof, proof, proof, proof, proof, proof, proof, proof, proof, proof, proof,
but my hatsune miku solution doesn't really matter whether or not Hamas are indeed there. (even though the IDF bee-lined it to the hospital and all of the above)
First, the Shifa hospital HAS to be entirely surrounded by Israeli forces.
That blue is what IDF has claimed. They are currently in the process of fully surrounding the area. that means a lot of airstrikes, a lot of demolition, a lot of fighting until the hospital is entirely surrounded. Then after that, ceasefire, no more shooting unless it's for self-defence. Shooting the surrounding area of the hospital is prohibited, not allowed.
Israel has complete domination over the ocean and the beaches. I'd set up a temporary fort on the beach or, if using the Gaza Port, setting up barges. The fort will contain heavy armour, soldiers, protective barriers and surveillance equipment like cameras.
Then, create a large pile of humanitarian aid—medicine, food, textiles, water, anything that civilians exclusively need. Fuel can only be transferred and escorted by the IDF and watched to see it be used in the hospital's generators. If those IDF who handle and watch the fuel get killed, then we know Hamas is in the hospital and is stealing it.
There will be marked safety spots through a designated route leading to the supply cache and fort. Aerial drones and hidden cameras will monitor this designed route at all times. Depending on the logistics, you can even supply soldiers with mounted cameras to verify if they shoot at any civilians or shoot first (some IDF soldiers already have these, but they're not released yet). There's also cameras in the distance juuust in case there's missile strikes, we don't want a repeat of that first hospital scare where we didn't know who shot the missile!
Civilians and personnel must travel the route, either in an IDF transport or on foot, gathering what supplies they can (except fuel; only the IDF may transfer that).
The idea is that with such constant surveillance, anyone should be able to verify who shoots first. Hamas or Israel. Israel has set up ceasefires before, but every single time Hamas has never honoured them for very long. Check the proofs for that!
Israel is running out of time with their operations. Remember, they are at war with three separate nations. Logistically and economically, they alone (even with their equipment) cannot last indefinitely. Watch that Northern border with Hezbollah forces! Building these kinds of fortifications and routes takes a lot of time, time which civilians don't have. So in the meantime, if I was israel, I'd drop supply crates in the hospital courtyard. Israel says they are already trying to supply the hospital, but are facing difficulties with skirmishes surrounding the area.
Of course this idea is probably awful! i'm an idol, okay? be nice to me!! ;3;
I dont really think thats a long term solution. Plus its very risky. Long queues are prime for atacks and large concentrations os angry, hungry people is just a bad idea.
You'll need UN peace keepers around for some years. Palestinians dont really trust idf (understandable). And give back the control of gaza to the legitimate (well, the best we have now) palestinian authority. And start working on a two state solution with real pressure on both sides from the international comunity. Still, it will take decades (see the balkans)
ooh, nuhuh, it's not a long term solution!
This is not them being radicalized? You mean, even more?
Lol i'm sorry, maybe you didnt understand me.
They are both radicalized. But only one of them is being bombed to the stone age. If you do not see this litlle detail... Maybe i'm not the only with a bias.
At least mine is against dead children, what is yours?
You cannot "slaughter" a major terrorist organization, you starve it. IRA was not slaughtered, it ceased to exist when a deal was made between the populations.
Hate only generates hate.
I'm not against UN forces in gaza, nor denying that there is a problem. But carpet bombing is never a solution.
Ps: i think you are confused, hamas is not the government of palestine, just gaza (and not really a democracy). And Mahmud abbas already has shown himself open to a two state solution ( https://press.un.org/en/2022/sc15042.doc.htm)
Oh, the nazi card... I did nazi that comming...
I would suggest to learn more about germany on the post war. It was not the war that 'removed the nazism' from them. It was a decade long process, with plenty of educational reforms.
If you want to read, i suggest: exorcising hitler
And in their eyes, yes, they are fighting for independence just like IRA was. They dehuminized the jews, as you are dehuminizing the palestinian people, and created a anti-semitic cult.
Regarding elections: most of the palestinian people were not alive, or voted, when the 'elections' happened (2007) as 75% of the population is less than 25.
But hey, at least you posted a foto of nazis... Thats something...
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See, now you say that i'm anti-semitic... Just because i disagree on how many children are "acceptable colateral".
Have a nice evening :) i hope (no sarcasm) you and your family are safe, because plenty of others arent.
it's not a concentration camp! that implies gaza is being forced to work X3
the word you're looking for is Prison! :3 whiiiich is kinda strange because then apparently Egypt is in on it too 3:
Prisons have running water, hospitals, food, and the people in them are mostly criminals, with a few guards and staff. Prisoners still have human rights. None of that is true for Gaza.
The people living in Gaza are children, with a few terrorists, and foreign aid workers.
Concentration camps need not be work camps. They are defined by what motivated their creation (segregating a specific group of a population).
just a few terrorists? X3
Gaza is Hamas' headquarters! they're the governing body of Gaza and separated themselves from the PLO
also the reason why the infrastructure is so bad is because hamas used most of the water pipes to construct their missiles. oops.