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Your cries for help are meaningless if you can't tell the difference smh
Judging by her educational history and political present day, I'm guessing she's not fond of being lectured or otherwise informed by anyone about anything.
They could call it a "fnorplgleek" for all I care.
Until they figure out how to prevent any and all fnorplgleeks from having the ability to injure, main, or kill another human being when the fnorplgleek operator wishes to harm you unlawfully, they can expend 100% of their thinkbox time figuring out how to do so. Like, pin their wetware CPU to working out a solution. Interconnect them Borg style.
If the response is "well no, not like that" then we recognize that it's a compromise that continues to put victims in front of said fnorplgleek operators.
brb getting a "Down with fnorplgleeks" t-shirt made
are "fnorplgleeks" pencils? because what you described sounds like a problem with pencils.
So you wouldn't care if the legislation was written to ban anything that has the potential to kill?
Guns, cars, knives, bleach, rope all could fall into that category. See how words have specific definitions and actually matter quite a bit? Especially when the law is concerned. Why do you think there's different categories of homicide? Do you think manslaughter and 1st degree murder should carry the same penalty?
Only one is made to kill. All others have other uses
I would be concerned for your knowledge of gun safety if you didn't know this too. She's a lunatic, but she has a point.
This is just bullshit GOP deflection whenever someone calls it what it is.The AR in AR-15 may stand for Armalite, but an AR-15 is still an assault rifle.
The U.S. Army defines assault rifles as "short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachine gun and rifle cartridges.
And
...examples of intermediate cartridges are the 7.92×33mm Kurz, the 7.62×39mm and 5.56×45mm NATO.
The AR-15 doesn't have selective fire.
His point about bullshit deflection stands.
Um... You know I can easily buy a single-fire gun.
It is very challenging for me to buy a selective fire gun. Because, they have been heavily regulated for a long time.
Thanks for the great example of bullshit deflection!
it's literally the definition given above that's being used.
If you don't see a significant difference between automatic and non-automatic weapons then you wouldn't care if automatic weapons were regulated the same as non-automatic
You know you just can't call "bullshit deflection" every time you are wrong because you failed to understand what you read right?
You could argue that, but I could also argue that the majority of M16/AR-15 style rifles issued by the US military are semi-automatic just like civilian models. Why? Because semi-automatic fire is, by far, more accurate, efficient, and deadly than burst or automatic fire.
So whether you want to call it an assault rifle, a long rifle, or whatever, the one you buy at Bass Pro Shops is just as advanced and deadly as what our military carries. So asking for some common sense gun laws and improved mental healthcare before you can just walk into a store and walk out with what is functionally the exact same rifle the most powerful military in the world issues to its soldiers maybe isn't too fucking much to ask. The number one cause of death for children in the US is fucking firearms. As a lifelong gun owner, stop pissing and moaning about how improved gun laws will ruin your hobby while fucking kindergartners are far more likely to die to a .223 than their family is to know when their next meal will be.
Select fire means there are multiple fire modes, therefore by definition they have to be burst or full auto capable. See what Boebert means?
Wtf, no she doesn't?! I don't need to know the details of how guns are named to see the effects they have. It's like saying you can only criticize someone running over people with a car if you can name the manufacturer's home country, completely absurd.
Why does knowing what AR stands for mean you understand gun safety? Do they have a corporate model vocabulary lesson in gun safety classes?
It would indicate you have done passing research on what you are talking about. If people are messing up basic terminology I would be concerned they have a poor understanding of the subject. The same way Trump spoke about stuff with incorrect language showed his ignorance.
Why do you need to research the name of a specific gun to understand gun safety? How does not knowing what the initials of one single gun stand for show you have a poor understanding of the subject? Do you have to be familiar with every gun out there to understand gun safety? In that case, don't let anyone buy a gun until they've used every model and knows each one intimately. Otherwise it won't be safe.
It's one of the most prolific gun platforms ever. It would be like trying to regulate trucks without knowing the F-150 is made by Ford. It shows ignorance of the subject, which isn't what you want if you're looking to express an opinion. It's not that deep.
You are moving the goalposts. We weren't talking about regulation. We were talking about gun safety.
The claim you made was this:
Can you please explain to me how gun safety was taught before the AR-15 was invented despite the lack of this necessary component?
No you're not. This entire post is about wanting to ban the AR-15. Aka regulate it. Stop trying to mask your intentions it doesn't do you any favors. We all know what they are.
Again, regulation is not the same as banning. I have no idea why you would think it is. And this conversation you butted into was about gun safety. I literally pasted what started the conversation.
It's strange that you demand such precision regarding gun specific terminology but your rigorousness disappears immediately when it comes to using terms like regulate and ban correctly. Perhaps until you can use those terms correctly you should remove yourself from any topics concerning them.
Bans are subsets of regulation, no?
That seems like an oddly narrow question given Marios misuse.
Replace that same logic with the idiots who want to control women's healthcare... that's why.
What abbreviation is it necessary to know to understand women's healthcare?
It's not about just the abbreviation, it's the fact that you and a ton of others in here think the AR-15 is somehow more dangerous than any other semi auto rifle. When it's not. The amount of people killed each year with all rifles combined, is 1/3rd the number of people killed with knives and 1/2 of those killed with feet/hands, which shows you're not here for a solution to people dying, you're here to ban something you have no clue about because the media and politicians tell you it's scary.
Please provide evidence that I think that the AR-15 is more dangerous than any other semi automatic rifle.
Unless that was a lie, of course. I'm sure if it wasn't a lie, you can prove that I think that.
That's you're starting point...you literally said regulate all guns...aka I want them all banned. And while you may have not said it specifically in this thread, you're still wanting to regulate something you don't understand.
Got it. You lied.
You also seem very confused about what regulation means.
I want all cars regulated. I want every car to be registered and every driver to be licensed after being tested for competence. Does that mean I want to ban cars?
Do you really think 'regulation' is a synonym for 'ban?'
In the gun world yes. Find me a place that didn't impose registering firearms that didn't end up taking the mass majority of them.
Sure, I'll be happy to do that as soon as you own up to your lies and apologize for saying I supported the Taliban.
The AR15 was designed to be the most effective general case weapon of war to be carried by soldiers. If it didn't have measurable advantage over other rifles why did the US military adopt the M-16? Select fire is far from the only characteristic that contributes to the efficient lethality of that design.
They don't use the AR-15 in the military... it's still a plastic fucking semi automatic rifle ..just like my wood ones that are semi auto...there is no difference. It's like trying to ban a car because it's got a spoiler and painted red...
"Well technically, the babies died because of gravity, not because I throw them out of the window." -throws_babies_out_of_windows
https://youtu.be/JxPj3GAYYZ0?si=S1Fm_GicCdM_NHyj
Imagine agreeing with Boebert. Yikes
It's called not being an ideological slave with a mind poisoned by partisan politics.
If Boebert said the Holocaust was bad would you disagree?
I would be surprised if she said that
If it's trying to kill me then that is kind of more important than it being called or not called the Assualt Rifle 15