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...yeah, I'm sure Trump will have your back...

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[-] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

No, a +1 for Candidate A and a -1 for Candidate B is a swing of 2. A -1 for Candidate B is a swing of 1. 1 =/= 2.

[-] Wodge@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Mathematically yes, you are correct. Politically, no. Conservatism needs low voter turnout to win. More voters = Higher likelihood of a more centrist/progressive victory. There is a reason conservative governments all over the planet are pushing for disenfranchising voters.

[-] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Disenfranchising disproportionately affecting one party over another is not the same as “Not voting for X is a vote for Y.”

Were that actually true, Trump would have easily won the 2020 election with 154 million votes, since we’re counting the 80 million nonvoters as votes for him.

[-] Wodge@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Disenfranchising reduces the total number of votes required to get a majority, so not voting for Biden helps whatever republican he ends up going against. Remember how McCarthy only got in the house speakership because Gaetz marked himself as present instead of voting for him? It's the same thing.

[-] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

So Trump got 80 million extra votes last election and won in a landslide?

[-] Wodge@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

No, but Biden could've had an extra 80 million votes were it not for a lot of people being unable to vote.

[-] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

So nonvoters were not voters for Trump, but instead simply voters who didn’t vote Biden?

[-] Wodge@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
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