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If cops are going to maintain a database of 'dangerous' addresses, and tell paramedics not to respond without a police escort, the police department must also ☆maintain☆ the database.

They did not.

The family got a $1,860,000 settlement, but should've gotten more.

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[-] GooseFinger@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

If you read the article, the family got everything they wanted from the lawsuit. $1.8 million, and the police department rehauled their blacklist protocol. Blacklisted addresses expire after one year, and they're verified every time emergency responders are dispatched to one of them. I wonder why similar precautions weren't in place before, although I can see how something like this can get overlooked until something bad happens and consequences occur. We should demand better, though.

What happened was tragic, but it's great that the lawsuit had the best outcome for everyone involved.

[-] tdawg@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Because it's in America and prevention of issues isn't in our culture. We'd rather save the money and pretend the "1%" chance event isn't inevitable

[-] nucleative@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I live in not-America at the moment and let be the first to say Americans give way more thought to prevention and do-it-right-the-first-time than most anybody else.

[-] TheFrogThatFlies@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Everything they wanted? I'm so glad the kids got their dad back!

[-] jepolitsch@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The lawsuit had the best outcome for everyone, especially future families.

We should demand better, though.

We sure should. The only lives that seem to matter to them are other cops. All other precautions seem to exist only because someone forced them upon them.

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