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[-] eva_sieve@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Outside of measure of a man-type episodes, I don't think they've ever had a super in-depth discussion on selfhood and the soul as characters see it in universe. , but it seems like materialism is the generally accepted philosophy. Post Enterprise, people who have hangups on the transporters (perhaps more based in dualism) are treated as weirdos.

More evidence for materialism: Q, the godlike being who might be able to tell the difference, treats Golem-Picard the same entity. And last I checked nobody's going around saying that Thomas Riker and William Boimler are p-zombies.

(I guess Gray Tal is the odd man out, since there was some consciousness that got somehow ceremonially split off before shoving it in a golem. Maybe that's just trill symbiont weirdness though).

[-] SeeJayEmm@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

The fact that everyone treats Golem-Picard as True-Picard felt to me like confirmation that, in the ST universe, what makes you you is your mind. Memories, thought patterns, etc... I know it was tv-show hand wavery but the fact that no one mourned the death of their friend, or really ever once questioned the validity of the golem taking his place bothered me a little.

[-] FormerGameDev@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago

Also, M'Benga's daughter is still the same person, despite being an energy being now, without a physical body.

If my consciousness is continuing, especially into a physical form that looks exactly like myself, what practical difference does it make?

[-] LibraryLass@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago

but it seems like materialism is the generally accepted philosophy.

Which is absurd as souls objectively exist in Star Trek and at least two major species objectively have them-- which implies most do.

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