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[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 83 points 1 year ago

....boy do i have some news for you about US foreign policy since the 50's

[-] nomecks@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago

No. You see, corporations murdering people for profit isn't the same. Coke killing union leaders or Rio Tinto destroying entire towns doesn't count because they're not government. Q.E.D

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 11 points 1 year ago
[-] Duplodicus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Coke pushing foreign governments to murder union leaders is in fact quite different than the state purging people. One is a company paying off a corrupt government to murder people that government likely does not want gaining power and the other is the state murdering people who oppose their political views.

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago
[-] Duplodicus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

How many people were murdered in COINTELPRO? Where is the purge that is similar to say the numerous purges in Soviet or Chinese history?

[-] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 12 points 1 year ago

...boy do I have some news for you about Soviet domestic policy back when it still existed

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_the_Soviet_Union

[-] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 year ago

You understand that communism and socialism are not the same thing? Stalinism and Communism are also not the same thing.

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 16 points 1 year ago
[-] Duplodicus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Are foreign invasions and acts of war the same thing as domestic purges of opposing ideologues?

[-] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago
[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago

Party foul. The point was 'socialism bad because socialists kill people for opposing socialist dogma!!'

Showing the US spending 70 odd years ramming it up the arse of various countries for daring to consider /vote in a system that is not capitalism belies that position and acts as a counterpoint. Going 'hurrbluur soviets' adds nothing.

[-] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

That's just because you didn't read the page, Soviet's did the same as the US, they just collapsed a lot sooner.

If we can take a critique of historical socialists and do a "whatabout the US", it's fair to do a "whatabout the Soviets".

[-] Duplodicus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

No the pointy, which I made, was socialism is evil because the people who attempt to install it purge their populations.

Thus the US's imperialism abroad is an entirely unrelated issue to the point I was making. If you have evidence of mass purges for ideological reasons that would be relevant but also has never happened here.

[-] Duplodicus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Is the USA killing its own people in purges?

[-] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Yes, have you not been paying attention to the rampant unchecked police problem

this post was submitted on 21 Sep 2023
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