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I was wondering, with all the different Lemmy clients and frontends, what/which out of these do people actually use? To answer this, I made a poll if anyone wants to fill it out, and I tried to put every client I could find.

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[-] Izzy@lemmy.world 105 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Almost all of Syncs business model is ads. The free version has ads and almost everyone who pays for it is doing so to remove ads. Which is just rewarding the implementation of ads. I also disagree with the concept of profiting from free user content with ads like Reddit does. Which was Reddits primary goal of preventing third party apps. They wanted the ad revenue themselves instead of third parties getting the ad revenue.

The only way this can be acceptable is to not have a free ad version and only have a paid version. That way you are paying for software and not paying to remove ads or profiting from free user content.

[-] travysh@lemm.ee 104 points 2 years ago

I paid to remove ads from Reddit Sync in 2014. 9 years went by where I continued to use the app every single day, as ljdawson continued regular improvements and updates (aside from the incident). By the time Reddit Sync went away, I felt I had vastly underpaid for what I got, and purchased lifetime Ultra as a way of supporting ljdawson.

I totally get what you're saying. But at the same time, Sync is so much more than just the content that it displays. The ads are not there to profit on free content, they're there to support the user experience that sync provides. They're also far, far less obtrusive than typical ads

The nice thing is, there's choices! Feel free to use other clients and find what works best

[-] burrito@sh.itjust.works 40 points 2 years ago

Same here. I used the paid version sync for reddit for years and got my money's worth out of it. When the incident happened I switched to infinity and, while annoyed, I definitely felt I got my worth out of it. When ljdawson released sync for lemmy and added the ad-free upgrade I happily purchased it and I have been very satisfied with the app and all the improvements he is continually making. This is all coming from a hardcore open source 20+ years of Linux on the desktop guy.

[-] Justly0250@lemdro.id 3 points 2 years ago

(aside from the incident)

???

[-] Pringles@lemm.ee 89 points 2 years ago

I'm a sync user and pretty tired of these pointless statements. Don't want it, don't use it! I pay for ultra to support the dev and that's my choice. Again, if you don't want it, don't use it. But can you please stop this sync bashing? It's not as if the torrent of anti-sync memes forgot to cover what you are saying.

[-] ProvokedGamer@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 years ago

Exactly, vote with your time and/or money. If you don’t like something, don’t use it. They’ll be people that are fine with it and will use it.

[-] blackbrook@mander.xyz 12 points 2 years ago

Why do you care if someone doesn't like your client of choice? They have some value that is different than yours, they have every right to express why they think people using sync is harmful. You are free to disagree but don't complain because they express an opinion you don't like.

[-] kmkz_ninja@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

You are free to disagree but don't complain because they express an opinion you don't like.

[-] sab@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Does that refer to Izzy, or the people who complained because they expressed their opinion?

[-] Oddbin@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

Because tribalism! If you don't think like me then you're the enemy and must be told that you are. Classic ~~reddit~~ lemmy.

[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 2 years ago

WTF is wrong with supporting a developer (Either with cash or ad revenue)?

[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago

This is such a bad take. Imagine being mad that the user has a choice for a low/no cost ad supported version and a paid version. There are other benefits too, like being able to trial the software for as long as you want before buying in.

[-] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago

I'm using the free version of Sync for Lemmy now, I don't see any ads. Maybe because my phone has the adguard server as my DNS server and it's just blocking them all?

How atrocious are they when not using adguard?

[-] travysh@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago

Yeah it's from adguard DNS.

Ads just show up semi frequently. Definitely visible but not obtrusive. Just keep scrolling.

https://i.imgur.com/8w8mUkE.png

You should still see the frequency with adguard. It's just a blank area where normally there'd be an ad.

[-] Odo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

I still haven't paid to remove ads, and no Adguard, yet I've never had a single ad show up. I wonder if there's a bug.

[-] travysh@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

I don't think so?

The frequency I see ads is very very low. And when they do it's just a single card

[-] naticus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Yes, but what did Mary do?!

[-] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Hmm, glad mine looks like this

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

I don't have adguard on my phone and have never seen a single ad on Sync since day one.

[-] FederatedSaint@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

Wait, how is earning revenue from having ads in your app "profiting off free user content," but charging someone directly to use the app isn't? They both do the same thing for the developer (generate revenue), the only difference is who is paying.

[-] ogoflowgo@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

Then shut up and make a better app. Because it's sweet.

[-] loom_in_essence@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

FYI Izzy got permabanned for stating this opinion. That's really insane.

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

According to the mod post, this was far from the first time, and when they were warned they didn't take it well, hence the permaban.

[-] kratoz29@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Did he get reported or what? I just saw somebody mention Izzy in a Star Wars meme lol.

[-] LetterboxPancake@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago

Or have a free version to lurk only. Want to participate? Buy the full version.

[-] lemann@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago

Non-starter for non-GMS devices unfortunately where in app purchases straight up do not work

[-] Izzy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

That would be a good idea too.

[-] 50MYT@aussie.zone 9 points 2 years ago

As re there any other Lemmy clients that are being worked on full time?

[-] joyjoy@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

This is why I use Liftoff.

[-] Willy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago

I was considering trying sync. thanks for the info. never gonna touch it now. there are too many good free browsers now to even bother. I'm still trying narrow down between the last three out of five different iOS ones I downloaded. they are all so good and Apollo like

[-] kmkz_ninja@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

I get like, 1 ad per 5 pages or so. That commenter is kinda goofy.

[-] kratoz29@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

Every time I see comments like this I imagine that Reese meme from Malcom in The Middle saying "Wah Wah, too bad!" Or whatever the English translation of that is.

Picture for reference.

this post was submitted on 17 Sep 2023
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