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So how long until they kick legacy mods from r/startrek and reopen?
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Just because some users decide to stay with reddit does not mean they deserve to have their community destroyed.
Reddit is making it much more difficult for the moderators to build and maintain communities. They're also cutting off accessible apps for using Reddit, eliminating a portion of their userbase.
Brass tacks, the community will come back (or another one will form, like r/Star_Trek or something) if people are willing to do the work. This requires them to be okay with doing unpaid labor for Reddit even while Reddit is making that labor harder. They also have to be okay with crossing a picket line.
I'm not defending reddit as a corporate entity, I "defending" its users and the community and argue against punishing them to punish reddit.
That's a fully general argument against strikes. We shouldn't punish Piggly-Wiggly's customers by striking; they might not be able to get their groceries somewhere else. We shouldn't punish drivers by striking at the auto shop; some people won't be able to get their cars repaired.
The big difference is that r/StarTrek is nowhere near as important as a grocery store or auto shop. People need to eat to live. People need to get places. People don't need to discuss Star Trek online at all. Much less do they need to discuss it specifically on Reddit. So the argument is more like: we shouldn't punish customers of Sam's Nail Salon by striking; they might have to go to Pat's Nail Salon a couple blocks over instead, and that's just not fair.
If you were to protest Piggly-Wiggly grocery store, you would do so by not going there and not by tampering their products or blocking people from entering the store. And your second argument can be turned around to the actual reddit protest itself, like you said reddit is not important so it is equally unimportant, technically speaking, what they are charging for their API. Fact however is, people use reddit, so we are back at the beginning. Protest is fine, put to punish users who still want to use reddit is not.
In point of fact, preventing people from entering a facility is how picketing works.
They are making moderation more expensive and more difficult. This is a labor issue. The fact that the workers are unpaid doesn't change that. The bosses screwing over workers is not unimportant.
Same thing as if a movie theater were engaging in wage theft against their employees: wage theft is important, but you seeing a movie at that particular theater isn't.
In point of fact picketing is congregating outside a business or venue and trying to persuade people from not entering. If the person wants go in, he or she still can. Reddit is not paying anyone but their employees, wage theft does not apply. Look, IDK if you are trying to navigate me into a position where I claim that the protest or being angry at reddit is not valid, that is not the case. What I'm saying, making the community suffer or to be less dramatic making the community pay for it, is not the answer and it is certainly not the answer to be vindictive against users who want to continue using reddit. Us being on this new platform, is a proper protest, the loss of numbers and that this growing community represents and others like, that is what counts. Having this dismissive attitude and almost dislike (That is how it comes across) and lack of empathy for those who despite all, want to remain in the reddit community or more to the point the subreddit community is something I am not behind and can't understand or condone. Welcome and invite them to join here, persuade them with compelling arguments but punishing them is the way.