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[-] Bicyclejohn@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

How did that become part of pride, wtf do they have in common?

[-] balerion@beehaw.org 24 points 1 year ago

The line between kink and queerness has historically been very blurry. Being gay or trans was once considered a sexual fetish just like any other.

Kink has always been part of pride; it did not "become" a part of it. Both kink and queerness are sexual identities that are marginalized by the mainstream, so it makes sense that they would come together to throw bricks at cops.

[-] AwkwardChuckle@beehaw.org 21 points 1 year ago

There has historically been close links and ties within the kink and lgbtq+ community. Leather is (or more so was) a huge part of the gay male scene.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago

Pride is an expression of sexuality. Proving to ourselves that it is okay for the world to see us as we are. Some people's sexuality is kinky, that's just the form some people's sexuality takes. When a kinky person is gay and they want to express their sexuality, it's going to look kinky.

It's kind of like asking, when did being black become part of pride? Some gay people just happen to be black!!

[-] alyaza@beehaw.org 16 points 1 year ago

Pride is an expression of sexuality. Proving to ourselves that it is okay for the world to see us as we are. Some people’s sexuality is kinky, that’s just the form some people’s sexuality takes. When a kinky person is gay and they want to express their sexuality, it’s going to look kinky.

there's also a long history of these communities existing at pride, even if they may not inherently be queer. bear, leather, and BDSM communities to name a few have been intertwined with pride and the queer community for basically as long as there's been pride!

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

Exactly. Straight kinky people face persecution to this day! It's not nearly as bad but when I started going to munches, it was absolutely taboo to ever use a person's real name, because just being there placed people's careers and family relationships in jeopardy. It's the same fucking fight.

[-] meredith@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

There is a really great writeup called A History of Leather at Pride: 1965-1995 that talks about this. It's very long, but I found it worth reading.

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