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[-] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

This is the exact attitude I was trying to call out. We are absolutely escalating our participation in this conflict. Trying to strattle the line of participation, where nothing we do is our own fault, and neither are any of the consequences we face. Because I'm not sure how well you did in middle school geography, but the US is, in fact, not a part of Europe. This war has no direct impact on the US beyond the extent we choose to be involved.

Now if you view the benefits of involvement as greater than the risks, fine. That's a perfectly coherent position. One I don't agree with, but a rational position nonetheless. But to pretend our involvement is just a force of nature we have no control over? That's just a bunch of excuses to support involvement without having to openly commit to a position of involvement.

[-] habahnow@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Lol, we tried your strategy, it just just emboldened Russia. Remember their attach on Georgia? How about their first invasion of Ukraine? Obviously, Russia wants to do what they want to do, especially if there's no consequences. Let's try this different approach and see if they feel being violent still helps them secure their goals.

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Also, "appeasement" in this context should be awfully familiar to anyone vaguely familiar with history. It worked soooo well last time....

[-] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Your point being? There's only one Georgia I would care if Russia attacked, at it ain't the one they did.

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[-] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

If you seriously think taking some backwater nowhere gives Russia the military capabilities to invade the US, I'd like some of whatever you're smoking

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Ukraine is hardly a backwater nowhere. It's a major industrial and agricultural player in the region. There's a reason that Russia wants it so badly.

Historically, nations with an appetite for conquest don't get sated and keep going. It cannot be tolerated for a nation state to just unilaterally conquer to expand.

[-] habahnow@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Give an actual reason we shouldn't care about Russia's history of attacks, that show you're not ignorant of the topic, and I'll actually provide you an answer. Your reply appears extremely ignorant.

[-] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

The onus is on you to show that a reason does exist, not on me to prove a lack thereof.

[-] habahnow@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I agree, you should get informed on the topic, and maybe you can come up with a good reasons why the government should change course from it's current actions. Goodluck!

[-] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Lol you're the only one uninformed here since you've shown you have nothing except deflection and bullshit.

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