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Musk Secretly Used Starlink to Foil Ukrainian Drone Attack on Russian Ships (www.thedailybeast.com)

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Original source: https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/politics/elon-musk-biography-walter-isaacson-ukraine-starlink/index.html

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[-] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 46 points 2 years ago

This guy aided the Kremlin. He's helping russians in their genocide of Ukrainian children. Fuck that pile of shit and lock him up.

[-] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 2 years ago

I agree. I'm just saying, he's not guilty of treason.

[-] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

This scenario happens to me all the time. People usually just assume that someone else adding details or pedantic corrections means they’re invalidating your whole argument rather than trying to strengthen it (ultimately, I assume)

[-] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

I never claimed he was. But he's guilty of being an ally of russia

[-] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 years ago

arrest this treasonous scumbag

You literally just did

[-] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

I accused him of being treasonous -- which he ABSOLUTELY IS. End of discussion.

[-] Hobo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

No he's not by definition. He isn't Ukrainian so he can't commit treason against the Ukrainian people. He didn't commit any treasonous acts against the US or our allies here either (Ukraine is not an US ally last I checked).

I despise Musk and pretty much everything he stands for. I think it's borderline societal insanity to allow private industry to put satellites in space and think it takes a certain kind of awful megalomaniac to think they can control that infrastructure single handedly. But saying he's treasonous for this? That cheapens the word when you use it against people that ARE treasonous. For instance when certain ex-Presidents decide to steal classified documents despite numerous warnings...

[-] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I didn't say he was a traitor. I said he is treasonous in his actions. Please, people -- There is a difference. And BTW, Musk's actions, by assisting a terrorist regime currently trying to commit a genocide upon a country of people, are equally as treasonous to anything trump has done.

[-] Hobo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

treason (noun): The betrayal of allegiance toward one's own country, especially by committing hostile acts against it or aiding its enemies in committing such acts.

You can't commit treason against a country if you aren't a citizen of that country by definition.