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Airbnb bookings dry up in New York as new short-stay rules are introduced
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So they register? There isn't anything to indicate that hosts who plan to rent out a spare room and follow the rules won't be approved.
When you register, you must comply with hotel-level standards.
I went and looked up the regulations.
https://rules.cityofnewyork.us/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/FINAL-RULES-GOVERNING-REGISTRATION-AND-REQUIREMENTS-FOR-SHORT-TERM-RENTALS-1.pdf
Host requirements start on the bottom of page 16. The requirements boil down to posting a fire exit diagram of the unit, keeping records, and not violating building or fire codes. Nothing in there that really seems that onerous, and is stuff that obviously protects the guests.
This requires personal investment from people over something they nominally may not have the means or ability to change or influence.
Fire doesn't care about limp excuses.
Then I guess they shouldn't be opening living spaces to other people for commercial purposes. Almost like doing that implies you have a responsibility to your guests
So guests should just burn then? Like we have regulations because people died before said regulations.
I'm sorry was there a rush of ABNB fires I haven't heard about or is this a total non-issue
Yea you're not really arguing in good faith here. You know fires happen and the lack of basic alerting systems is a concern. These regulations aren't costing folks 10 grand to do. There is a cost of doing business and New York has stated this is that cost. Take it up with your state assembly if you don't like it.
It is quite firmly my stance that none of the people barking up this "fire bad" tree are engaging in good faith at all, since none of these AirBnBs demonstrate undue risk worthy of their own fire code ordinances
Asking a person to install their own fire door to rent a room out is absurd.
Oh look, here's a list of fires that happened in buildings with short-term rentals, where egress, fire alarms, and sprinkler systems saved actual lives...
https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/public-safety/2023/03/16/fdny-investigates-fire-at-ues-luxury-hotel
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/manhattan-fire-at-central-park-south-hotel-sparks-major-fdny-response-what-to-know/4120852/
https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/fire-prompts-evacuation-of-park-lane-hotel-along-central-park-south/
https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/midtown-hotel-evacuated-amtrak-fire/
https://nypost.com/2022/09/24/rooftop-fire-erupts-at-exclusive-casa-cipriani-hotel-in-nyc/
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/22/nyregion/fire-hotel-manhattan.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/fire-injures-seven-manhattan-highrise-b1962437.html
https://www.fireengineering.com/firefighting/16-alarm-fire-brooklyn-new-york/#gref
Who'da thunk it?!?! Do you enjoy playing dumb?
These are all hotel fires lol.
Short term rental fires, yes. Which proves that....short term rentals do occasionally go up in flames with renters inside.
You don't win any awards with those powers of observation there, do ya champ?
The horror.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-09-05/airbnb-s-new-nyc-regulations-what-renters-and-hosts-need-to-know
This effectively blocks struggling renters from using ABNB to bridge their payment gaps.
Yes, I think people being evicted over this policy would agree with the statement "the horror"
It's weird to watch you balance "evictions are evil" with "I hate what I'm told to hate" and end up choosing your hate first.
As mentioned previously, then they shouldn't be housing others. You spend a small sum of money to make money, when I worked for the city of new York, all us engineers knew the saying, "regulations are written in blood" because NYC was one of the first cities to experiment with new housing methods and such. We were thus the first to witness the horrors of lack of regulation.
I wasn't alive for the triangle waistcoat factory disaster. Will I learn from it? Yes. Will I force others to learn from it and protect innocent people around them? Also yes. Fire does not care about your class or situation, they happen and the steps to being protected are necessary.
Those struggling renters might not be struggling so much if other people renting out their apartments on AirBnB weren't pushing up their rent by an extra 20%.
Housing markets have problems. AirBnB is not a responsible solution to those problems.
https://hbr.org/2019/04/research-when-airbnb-listings-in-a-city-increase-so-do-rent-prices
If a person has extra rooms and can barely afford rent, they are occupying a unit that doesn't fit their needs. They would be better served by downsizing to a smaller, more affordable place instead of heaping their financial problems onto the rest of society. Alternatively they could sublet the room(s) which would better serve their community instead of catering to tourists.
I'll be sure to remind everyone who gets evicted about this.
Good?