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Ukraine expands conscription, removes medical exemptions for HIV, hepatitis, mental disorders and more (archive.ph)

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Now, the words and figures "with the exception of articles 2-c, 4-c, 5-c, 12-c, 13-c, 14-c, 17-c, 21-c and 22-c" have been removed from the Regulation, i.e. everyone will be recognised as fit under the "controversial" articles:

2-c – clinically treated tuberculosis;

4-c – viral hepatitis with minor functional impairment;

5-c – asymptomatic HIV carrier;

12-c - slowly progressive and non-progressive with minor functional impairment and rare exacerbations of anaemia, blood clotting disorders, purpura, haemorrhagic conditions, other diseases of the blood and haematopoietic organs, and some disorders involving the immune mechanism;

13-c - diseases of the endocrine system with minor functional disorders;

14-c - mild, short-term, painful manifestations of mental disorders;

17-c - neurotic, stress-related and somatoform disorders with moderate or short-term manifestations, with an asthenic state;

21-c – slowly progressive diseases of the central nervous system with minor functional disorders;

22-c – episodic and paroxysmal disorders, except for epilepsy, with minor impairment of organ and system functions.

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[-] deft@ttrpg.network 82 points 1 year ago

All these comments "wow they'll take anyone, they must be desperate."

meanwhile Russia has been desperate for manpower this entire time and barely has enough morale to have people fight. Lmfao

[-] pelikan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ukraine:

closed border for all males;
non-stop involuntary draft of unwilling citizens;
resorts to conscripting HIV positives and people with mental health issues.

Russia:

first wave of forced mobilization ended half year ago, second wave still not started;
still has open border for most citizens (which actually helped a lot of them to avoid first wave of mobilization).

In alternative reality created by western massmedia this definately means that Russia is short of manpower. In world of logical thinking this actually means something else.

[-] deft@ttrpg.network 35 points 1 year ago

one is being INVADED

You fucking idiot lol

[-] pelikan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The question wasn't who's being INVADED, the question was who's DESPERATE FOR MANPOWER.

wtf you've lost the point of conversation and of your own original message, that's the real sign of ridiculous idiocy

[-] deft@ttrpg.network 14 points 1 year ago

HOLY FUCK y'all so stupid.

let me explain it for you, c'mon hold my hand.

If your country is being invaded every single person is part of the war effort. Every one. Even if you just cut grass or worked at costco, because you are being invaded and under threat of war. You're part of a war effort. Remanaging your resources like manpower to more war adjacent positions makes complete sense. All hands on deck, we are invaded.

If you are invading and must conscript fighters, your invasion is a meat grinder not going well.

Russia was supposed to end this war long ago, in their minds. At this point it is a sunk cost and they HAVE to win or they severely lose on a play they made.

So no. Not the same. Russia is doing terrible.

[-] pelikan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

Thanks for interesting excursion into your delusions. Actually you've just written WHY Ukraine is more desperate for manpower than Russia ("every single person is part of war effort and so on"). So you yourself proved your initial position to be wrong, but you were too lame to grasp that. And about "we are invaded": the only war that you personally wage is war in lemmy comments against facts, logics and critical thinking. Don't try to cover your own nullity with other's casualities.

[-] deft@ttrpg.network 5 points 1 year ago

personal attack, personal attack... huh nothing? no content ok.

Ukraine is fighting for their lives, Russia is forcing a fight for personal gain of the rich. Different games they're playing you stupid cuck lol

[-] deft@ttrpg.network 6 points 1 year ago

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/05/world/europe/cuba-russia-war-human-trafficking.html

trafficking people = more desperate

sorry was dunking on another one of you and saw your reply to me, figured I'd just smack that in here thanks

[-] pelikan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

So Russia tried to hire some Cuban mercenaries... literally same as Ukraine has done since the begginning of conflict, scraping mercs from entire world. So there's no point to argue, really trafficing more mercs = more desperate. From the third attempt you finally managed to bring something like valid argument, sadly it clearly works against you and once again shows that you're bot without any logical thinking.