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Ukraine expands conscription, removes medical exemptions for HIV, hepatitis, mental disorders and more (archive.ph)

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Now, the words and figures "with the exception of articles 2-c, 4-c, 5-c, 12-c, 13-c, 14-c, 17-c, 21-c and 22-c" have been removed from the Regulation, i.e. everyone will be recognised as fit under the "controversial" articles:

2-c – clinically treated tuberculosis;

4-c – viral hepatitis with minor functional impairment;

5-c – asymptomatic HIV carrier;

12-c - slowly progressive and non-progressive with minor functional impairment and rare exacerbations of anaemia, blood clotting disorders, purpura, haemorrhagic conditions, other diseases of the blood and haematopoietic organs, and some disorders involving the immune mechanism;

13-c - diseases of the endocrine system with minor functional disorders;

14-c - mild, short-term, painful manifestations of mental disorders;

17-c - neurotic, stress-related and somatoform disorders with moderate or short-term manifestations, with an asthenic state;

21-c – slowly progressive diseases of the central nervous system with minor functional disorders;

22-c – episodic and paroxysmal disorders, except for epilepsy, with minor impairment of organ and system functions.

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[-] deft@ttrpg.network 82 points 1 year ago

All these comments "wow they'll take anyone, they must be desperate."

meanwhile Russia has been desperate for manpower this entire time and barely has enough morale to have people fight. Lmfao

[-] slice1@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

How do you know?

[-] IonAddis@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

For those looking at this comment, this guy seems another one that only crawls out to talk about Ukraine and India.

Interesting comment pattern, to be sure.

[-] slice1@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, everyone is a shillbot that does not share your opinion. You can not compensate for your lack of arguments by accusing others of ingenuity. I am a long time lurker that is crawling out becuase I am fed up with the pure feces that is been thrown around since the reddit flush. I was already on this platform while you were circlejerking on 9gag - dip$hit

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I got chased away from actual social media to the fediverse before shitloads of people came here in protest

Not the sick burn you think it is

[-] deft@ttrpg.network 5 points 1 year ago

I appreciate you spending time with the mentally infirm. God bless ya

[-] slice1@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

What the fuck are you talking about. I was never on any social media (other than lemmy.ml). nOt THe sIcK bUrn yOU tHInk iT Is

[-] deft@ttrpg.network 7 points 1 year ago

lol how do you?

[-] slice1@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The burden of proof is on the accuser - I am not the one making unverifyable claims. Since the war, Ukraine population is reduced by 16%. Who do you think they are recruiting? Interestingly, 1.7 mio. immigrated...

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/ukraine-population/#:~:text=The%20current%20population%20of%20Ukraine,latest%20United%20Nations%20data%201.

[-] deft@ttrpg.network 7 points 1 year ago

they are being invaded case closed

[-] slice1@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Surely they have invaded your brain. This war was in the making for decades. You really think it started with the recent invasion? What role do you think the US and Europe play in this war? Who do you think is accumulating credits/dept for the next generations? Who will swoop in with their cooporations when the dust has settled? Give me a break... the case is wide open.

[-] deft@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Of course it was decades in the making! Hillary took money from Ukraine during her campaign and Trump took money from Russia. It is known how this relationship goes.

Regardless Russia is losing and Ukraine is fighting for good reason and winning. You agree?

[-] slice1@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Thank you for your constructive comment. Seems like you know what you are talking about.

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[-] ExLisper@linux.community 6 points 1 year ago

LoL

[-] slice1@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Haha - your so funny. You must be really cool and strong. Your wisdom must be at the peak of humanity. Enlighten us and plant your seed for future generations to thrive on the fruits of your genius.

[-] ExLisper@linux.community 9 points 1 year ago

Dude, if you're being forced to post pro-russian comments by Putin post another pro-russian comment. We will get you out of there.

[-] slice1@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

What did I say that is pro-russia?

[-] deft@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 year ago

Dunno couldn't hear you with them boots in your mouth and your nose up an ass

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[-] gressen@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Personal attacks is a solid way to get blocked.

[-] slice1@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, laughing at someone is OK ('lol'). I am just giving you the clownery you are craving for.

[-] pelikan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ukraine:

closed border for all males;
non-stop involuntary draft of unwilling citizens;
resorts to conscripting HIV positives and people with mental health issues.

Russia:

first wave of forced mobilization ended half year ago, second wave still not started;
still has open border for most citizens (which actually helped a lot of them to avoid first wave of mobilization).

In alternative reality created by western massmedia this definately means that Russia is short of manpower. In world of logical thinking this actually means something else.

[-] deft@ttrpg.network 35 points 1 year ago

one is being INVADED

You fucking idiot lol

[-] pelikan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The question wasn't who's being INVADED, the question was who's DESPERATE FOR MANPOWER.

wtf you've lost the point of conversation and of your own original message, that's the real sign of ridiculous idiocy

[-] deft@ttrpg.network 14 points 1 year ago

HOLY FUCK y'all so stupid.

let me explain it for you, c'mon hold my hand.

If your country is being invaded every single person is part of the war effort. Every one. Even if you just cut grass or worked at costco, because you are being invaded and under threat of war. You're part of a war effort. Remanaging your resources like manpower to more war adjacent positions makes complete sense. All hands on deck, we are invaded.

If you are invading and must conscript fighters, your invasion is a meat grinder not going well.

Russia was supposed to end this war long ago, in their minds. At this point it is a sunk cost and they HAVE to win or they severely lose on a play they made.

So no. Not the same. Russia is doing terrible.

[-] pelikan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

Thanks for interesting excursion into your delusions. Actually you've just written WHY Ukraine is more desperate for manpower than Russia ("every single person is part of war effort and so on"). So you yourself proved your initial position to be wrong, but you were too lame to grasp that. And about "we are invaded": the only war that you personally wage is war in lemmy comments against facts, logics and critical thinking. Don't try to cover your own nullity with other's casualities.

[-] deft@ttrpg.network 5 points 1 year ago

personal attack, personal attack... huh nothing? no content ok.

Ukraine is fighting for their lives, Russia is forcing a fight for personal gain of the rich. Different games they're playing you stupid cuck lol

[-] deft@ttrpg.network 6 points 1 year ago

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/05/world/europe/cuba-russia-war-human-trafficking.html

trafficking people = more desperate

sorry was dunking on another one of you and saw your reply to me, figured I'd just smack that in here thanks

[-] pelikan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

So Russia tried to hire some Cuban mercenaries... literally same as Ukraine has done since the begginning of conflict, scraping mercs from entire world. So there's no point to argue, really trafficing more mercs = more desperate. From the third attempt you finally managed to bring something like valid argument, sadly it clearly works against you and once again shows that you're bot without any logical thinking.

[-] deft@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 year ago

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/11/world/europe/russia-military-draft-ukraine.html

Cuba doesn't allow mercenary groups, neither does Kazakhstan who Russia has also trafficked people from.

Sounds like your boy Russia is struggling babe

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[-] gencha@feddit.de 20 points 1 year ago

Russia did hire Wagner, who recruited from prisons, right?

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

That was like 20k people, and Russian army is estimated to be around 400k now.

[-] deft@ttrpg.network 10 points 1 year ago

Weird with 400k people they still can't get shit done and are being bombed on their own turf after failing an invasion with a consistent supply issue. Real weird.