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It doesn't feel like a great idea to conscript those with mental health issues heavily impacted by stress.
Could always be used in administrative roles
True. I always read conscription and think "sent to the frontlines", but there's a lot of logistics and support that goes into an army.
My dad got drafted during Vietnam, and landed himself a position doing some supply/logistics stuff and basically spent his whole time chilling in Kentucky doing warehouse and office stuff. Admittedly he also did his damnedest on every aptitude test, evaluation, etc. they gave him to make himself out to be a coward and play up any non-combat skills he had specifically trying to end up doing something like that.
There's of course a lot of differences between 'Nam and Ukraine, but at the end of the day every army throughout history has relied on a whole bunch of people who weren't on the front lines to make things work. You need a whole lot of mechanics, warehouse workers, pencil pushers, IT staff, cooks, medical staff, truck drivers, etc. and if you're able to use people who wouldn't be able to hack it physically/mentally/emotionally on the front lines to fill those roles, it's kind of a no-brainer so that soldiers who are able to do it aren't tied up behind the scenes when they're needed.
Of course it absolutely sucks for anyone who gets conscripted.
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It's a terrible idea and it tells me that all the propaganda were getting about Ukraine clearly winning and barely losing anyone is bullshit. They must be real desperate if they're conscription people with mental disorders.
Look at the list and stop talking out your ass. Wars are won due to logistics, lots of paperwork and so on. Granted, the situation could be better, but let's not pretend Ukraine has its back against a wall.
They are still kicking Russia like nothing before.
Also, they are not just accepting any mental disorder, there are many disorders that may prevent someone to be in the front, but they don't prevent one to carry supplies from A-B in the back country. Wars are not just won through fights on the front.
If they could read they’d be super shocked by who the Russians are conscripting.
Wow... How do you think this works? Where are wars "won"? How is this not an act of desperation?
My thoughts exactly. You put me on the front line and my general commander is getting a bullet. Not saying I'll remember doing it but nobody dies except those that force me to kill.
Saying you don't "remember" doing it is probably not going to help much in your court-martial when you've posted a pre-meditated plan to do it on an open social media platform beforehand.
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A wall is only as strong as its weakest section. This is indeed not great news.
All these comments "wow they'll take anyone, they must be desperate."
meanwhile Russia has been desperate for manpower this entire time and barely has enough morale to have people fight. Lmfao
How do you know?
For those looking at this comment, this guy seems another one that only crawls out to talk about Ukraine and India.
Interesting comment pattern, to be sure.
Ah yes, everyone is a shillbot that does not share your opinion. You can not compensate for your lack of arguments by accusing others of ingenuity. I am a long time lurker that is crawling out becuase I am fed up with the pure feces that is been thrown around since the reddit flush. I was already on this platform while you were circlejerking on 9gag - dip$hit
I got chased away from actual social media to the fediverse before shitloads of people came here in protest
Not the sick burn you think it is
I appreciate you spending time with the mentally infirm. God bless ya
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lol how do you?
The burden of proof is on the accuser - I am not the one making unverifyable claims. Since the war, Ukraine population is reduced by 16%. Who do you think they are recruiting? Interestingly, 1.7 mio. immigrated...
they are being invaded case closed
Surely they have invaded your brain. This war was in the making for decades. You really think it started with the recent invasion? What role do you think the US and Europe play in this war? Who do you think is accumulating credits/dept for the next generations? Who will swoop in with their cooporations when the dust has settled? Give me a break... the case is wide open.
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Ukraine:
- closed border for all males;
- non-stop involuntary draft of unwilling citizens;
- resorts to conscripting HIV positives and people with mental health issues.
Russia:
- first wave of forced mobilization ended half year ago, second wave still not started;
- still has open border for most citizens (which actually helped a lot of them to avoid first wave of mobilization).
In alternative reality created by western massmedia this definately means that Russia is short of manpower. In world of logical thinking this actually means something else.
one is being INVADED
You fucking idiot lol
The question wasn't who's being INVADED, the question was who's DESPERATE FOR MANPOWER.
wtf you've lost the point of conversation and of your own original message, that's the real sign of ridiculous idiocy
HOLY FUCK y'all so stupid.
let me explain it for you, c'mon hold my hand.
If your country is being invaded every single person is part of the war effort. Every one. Even if you just cut grass or worked at costco, because you are being invaded and under threat of war. You're part of a war effort. Remanaging your resources like manpower to more war adjacent positions makes complete sense. All hands on deck, we are invaded.
If you are invading and must conscript fighters, your invasion is a meat grinder not going well.
Russia was supposed to end this war long ago, in their minds. At this point it is a sunk cost and they HAVE to win or they severely lose on a play they made.
So no. Not the same. Russia is doing terrible.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/05/world/europe/cuba-russia-war-human-trafficking.html
trafficking people = more desperate
sorry was dunking on another one of you and saw your reply to me, figured I'd just smack that in here thanks
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Russia did hire Wagner, who recruited from prisons, right?
That was like 20k people, and Russian army is estimated to be around 400k now.
Weird with 400k people they still can't get shit done and are being bombed on their own turf after failing an invasion with a consistent supply issue. Real weird.
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[citation needed]
look its the moron who posts actual chinese propaganda.
fuck off shit for brains
you used so many words to say that you are dumb fuck
In other news, Ukraine has not held the passports of migrant workers and impressed them into the armed forces, unlike a certain other country.
Technically correct - they only initially refused to allow foreign students to leave the country, and beat up anyone who tried to cross the border.
Source:
Thanks for you 'proof':
"The Ukrainian government has launched an emergency hotline for Africans and Asians fleeing, according to the foreign minister. In a tweet, Dmytro Kuleba said the authorities were "working intensively" to ensure the safety and passage of African and Asian students."
I don't think Putin will pay you for this one...
Do you know how many Ukrainians actually have a valid passport?
Edit: rough estimate for issued passports
16,594,248 international passports issued since 2016 Population: 44,982,564 (2020), 36,744,634 (2023) ~37% to 45% => likely less than half of the population
https://opendatabot.ua/en/analytics/passports https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/ukraine-population/#:~:text=The%20current%20population%20of%20Ukraine,latest%20United%20Nations%20data%201.
All these fucking morons in this post thinking all these people will go to the front are delusional but go ahead and tell us how this spells the end of ukr lmao
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