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San Francisco bakery sparks debate by refusing to serve armed police
(www.independent.co.uk)
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"We ban firearms in this establishment."
"WE're cops!"
"Got a warrant? Otherwise, you're violating our rules and regulations and we ask you to leave."
Better yet, have them arrested for trespassing. LMAO
you can try.... I've actually been there. Sort of.
Used to work contract security. my client was next to a MLB ball field- their parking lot literally was next to the service entrance, so the various staff that weren't special (concessions, security, etc,) would park there. A lot of their ball game security are moonlighting cops or retired cops... they liked to tail gate after the game.... but the city would revoke the license for running a parking lot if we allowed alcohol.
Getting drunken cops to leave your property when the other cops tried to be like "what's the harm," etc is no good.
I guess just keep calling the cops just to get the record that you tried to get the alcohol off.
it's really not that simple. First, if you keep nuisance complaints, they'll fine you (or in my case, fine my clients. which would have me fired.)
secondly, you annoy the cops enough, they'll freeze you out regardless of what their policies/rules say, and as a security guard, you're reliant on them to come save you if you ever have an active shooter or, more likely, just an aggressive asshole who doesn't like being told they can't do whatever it is they're trying to do.
Well do it often enough that you can show the city department that you don't allow alcohol and tried to get them removed (as seen by police records).
This is not a good plan, you need to be responsible for your own safety because you can't count on the imaginary good guy cops to save you from anything. It may be 30 minutes before they show up, or they may not even show up at all.
This is the only plan we got.
Liability is a bitch, ain’t it?
…how’d that work out for those kids in Uvalde, tho.
Exactly the point. It didn’t.
That really is a tough one. The only chance you have is to escalate and demand the duty sergeant come down and deal with the problem of his unruly officers or make an extremely public complaint to the media and mayor that will force a response.
You could try the state police non-emergency.
Or find a parking/fire violation that the fire department would care about. I’ve seen them put cops in there place a few times. Even pushed a cruiser down the street in Boston when it was double parked in there way.
I wish I’d had a camera phone back then, I’m pretty sure they don’t report those kind of things into logs that end up in the paper.
Or not yielding.
Fun story time... a couple of friends of mine were walking home after a night of drinking and some cops pull over and get out and say, "two white men in dark clothes just robbed the gas station down the road and you fit that description." One friend said, "you're two white men in dark clothes so you fit that description too. I'm going to have to make a citizen's arrest." My other friend said the cuffs got put on them at light speed. They got charged with public intoxication. We don't know if the two white men in dark clothes were ever caught.
Lol…. So… uh. Please tell me your friend is putting that snark to use,
Sadly, he passed away. And only in his 20s. And yes, we lost a great comic mind. I say this as someone who has been paid to do stand-up and write comedy: he was far funnier than I will ever be. I still miss him 20 years later.
Damn…. I’m sorry man.
I'm sorry too, but that's life. And the older you get, the more friends you lose along the way. I'm just glad we were friends for the time he was alive.