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The National Science Foundation, the federal agency that oversees the U.S. Antarctic Program, published a report in 2022 in which 59% of women said they’d experienced harassment or assault while on the ice, and 72% of women said such behavior was a problem in Antarctica.

But the problem goes beyond the harassment, The Associated Press found. In reviewing court records and internal communications, and in interviews with more than a dozen current and former employees, the AP uncovered a pattern of women who said their claims of harassment or assault were minimized by their employers, often leading to them or others being put in further danger.

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[-] Ace0fBlades@lemmy.world 91 points 1 year ago

Makes you wonder what challenges women will face in future space exploration missions. Long periods of isolation with groups of coworkers with very little personal space. Not like a belligerent party can be ejected out the airlock (It''ll probably happen who am I kidding)

[-] IverCoder@lemm.ee 52 points 1 year ago

Not like a belligerent party can be ejected out the airlock

a m o g u s

[-] rambaroo@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Future missions should be all-women teams. Problem solved.

Women eat less, use less oxygen, and weigh less than men. There's actually no logical reason to send male astronauts anywhere.

Edit: lol @ the downvotes with zero responses

[-] Syrc@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Sure, weight is definitely a more important factor than idk, reaction ability in danger situations or physical resistance to unfriendly environments.

[-] sorrowl 10 points 1 year ago

Yes, it is. On a long mission, even a few kg can have big differences in fuel consumption. Also the mean difference of reaction times between men and women is around 20-30ms, which is miniscule. Idk about the differences in resistance to space, but I highly doubt that men are significantly more resistant than women.

[-] Syrc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’m not saying men are better than women in those aspects. I’m saying a very limited amount of people, both men and women, have the physical and mental fortitude to withstand a space mission, and there is virtually never going to be a situation where two people have the exact same qualifications and weight has to be the “tiebreaker”. It’s pretty much a non-factor.

[-] cone_zombie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Why is 20-30ms "miniscule", but "a few kgs" compared to the weight of a fucking spacecraft isn't?

[-] sorrowl 1 points 1 year ago

Milliseconds and kilograms are worlds apart in magnitude (e.g. the difference between 1000 seconds (kilosecond... kinda) and 0.001 seconds (1 millisecond)). Secondly, the benefits of having 20 to 30 ms in reaction time is far less than the benefits of having less weight, even though a few kg and a few ms are not really that impactful. Weight directly increases fuel consumption, but reaction time would come into effect, as far as I know, in emergencies. Of course it's important to have a good reaction time at a time like that, but I'm pretty sure 20-30ms on average slower reactions isn't going to crash a spaceship. And if it does I would put that to faulty design or bad luck than the crew being 30ms late. Weight, however, would increase the fuel consumption in every step of the way, especially the launch stages. That limits the amount of fuel, components or resources on the ship. Few kg sure aren't much, but each kg might be a kg away from fuel, food, air or water the ship can handle. That of course depends a bit on the type of mission and spacecraft, as in space each kg affects less than on earth.

[-] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

I would assume a manned mission would have larger tolerances due to the unpredictability of humans and to ensure their safety

[-] babeuh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are reasons to do that, women and men react differently to long-term microgravity.

I found this study about the differences (but it's from 2014, please tell me if you find a more recent one) The Impact of Sex and Gender on Adaptation to Space: Executive Summary.

TL;DR female astronauts have, according to the study:

  • a higher risk of cancer (a 45-year-old man has a 344-day limit in space versus a 187-day limit for a 45-year-old woman)
  • more orthostatic intolerance
  • more UTIs (which makes sense as women on earth are also more likely to have UTIs)
  • less vision impairment compared to male astronauts (no clinically significant cases of VIIP syndrome)
  • less hearing problems (men show a more rapid decline in the left ear and in general as well, but this is the case on Earth too)


Keep in mind that this data is not the best because only around 20% of people that had been on the ISS at the time of the study were women and because male astronauts are more likely to come from a military background.

I personally think this means we should send an equal amount of both sexes (maybe more women as it would help get more data on the differences). Sending all-men or all-women missions sadly won't fully solve the problem as sexual assault isn't always between men and women, that said, it is less common so it's not a bad idea.

Anyways, more investigation is required. If you find a newer/better study please tell me (or if something I wrote is inaccurate), I don't want to spread misinformation

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Just FYI that username may get you some hostility. It's far too close to Ace of Bass which is a band from the 90s that were neo-nazis. The Base of Aces was a Nazi submarine base in WW2. I'm not assuming anything here, the lead singer and guitarist both confirmed separately that was what their band name was referring to, just before they lost all their fans.

[-] Ace0fBlades@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Used this username for years; it's a pun on the famous suit of playing cards the Ace of Spades. While I appreciate the warning, please go touch grass.

[-] CorruptBuddha@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Sorry I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but grass is another word for weed, and historically antimarijuana propaganda was used to oppress blacks.

[-] rbhfd@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

It's much more likely to be a play on the much better known "Ace of Spades"?

I'm not completely ignorant on Nazi dog whistles, but this is not one I know.

[-] ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that's stretching it a little (probably based off the Cracked article from a while back). Ace of Base was named after Ace of Spades (a song by Motorhead) as a reference/homage, anything beyond that is purely speculation as the band have categorically denied it.

And yes, Ulf was indeed in a band that wrote some pretty heinous stuff but he has both repeatedly apologised for that, made clear he no longer believes in any of this, and made explicitly clear that Ace of Base never shared these ideas.

Sources for those wanting to read up on it: Original article in Vice: https://www.vice.com/en/article/rm35nr/ace-of-bases-secret-nazi-past Speculation laden clickbait Cracked article that spawned a bunch of unfounded and unconfirmed theories about the origins of the band's name, meaning/readings of their lyrics, etc: https://www.cracked.com/blog/how-90s-pop-band-secretly-sold-nazism-to-america Follow-up in Huffington post: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ace-of-base-nazi-past-lyrics_n_3148797 and https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/04/26/ace-of-bases-ulf-ekberg-addresses-neo-nazi-allegations-_n_3161454.html

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