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I'm not sure I've seen any evidence of it existing though, is it just a Boogeyman, or so something that happened a while back? An in joke of some sort?

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[-] sapient_cogbag@infosec.pub 48 points 1 year ago

"Gender updates" is the best term i've heard for transitioning in a while. I'm stealing it now, the bigots can't have it. 󰱫

(also note for anyone reading: the term "tankie" refers to people who embrace authoritarianism and usually specific self-declared "socialist" states repressing civilians, often modern day states that don't even pretend to be socialist like Russia, or the CCP, or North Korea/DPRK, or even just any nation considered "anti-West" regardless of their behaviour or internal political structure x.x

It started when parts of the Communist Party of Great Britain split off from the main party because the main party supported the USSR crushing (with tanks) Hungarian socialists trying to break off from the USSR, for a number of reasons - others were involved too, but the worker councils themselves were major parts of the uprising - see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_Revolution_of_1956 - there were attempts at worker council parlimentary democracy and such, as well as attempts for direct-democracy ^.^

The most recent Tankie Thing is supporting Russia for invading Ukraine, or doing weird enlightened-centrism on it because the USA gives support to Ukraine. More broadly, tankies generally seem to act as if any act by another country is always less bad than the USA, and that only the USA can be imperialist, or various variations on this concept >.<.

It should be noted that the right wing have started to some degree calling all leftists tankies and IMO anyone should reject this attempted co-option of the word because it allows people to falsely conflate leftism with tankie ideologies, even though they are often a small minority in IRL leftist activism, with more common groups being anarchists, democratic socialists, some Marxists (even some Marxist-Leninists, which itself is a controversial term tbh), various libertarian socialisms and communisms, and the odd further-left social democrat ^.^)

[-] Strawberry 1 points 1 year ago

even some Marxist-Leninists, which itself is a controversial term tbh

Could you elaborate on this? I have not heard of a controversy about this term

[-] Franzia 4 points 1 year ago

Marxist-Leninists tend to have accidentally read russian / USSR propoganda and will have some sussy takes because of it. Marxist-Leninist youtubers are all tankies or cult-like and it's a bit of a nightmare.

[-] Strawberry 2 points 1 year ago

Oh I was reading that as there being some kind of linguistic controversy about the term marxism-leninism xD

[-] sapient_cogbag@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

Marxism-Leninism as a term was actually created by Stalin as a sort of post-hoc justification thing. It was not made by Lenin, but Stalin. This is linguistic weirdness/controversy, in that the name can serve to hide it's origins from casual readers.

The other commenter has explained the more concrete thing with the fact that lots of them are tankies or proto-tankies ^.^

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