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[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 19 points 10 hours ago

I've recently just understood what a HOA is. As a Canadian I thought they were "Unincorporated Municipalities" or there's also "Rate Payers Associations" which is like a proto-town where there's a group providing town-like services amongst themselves. Which to me is some sick ass anarchist shit. But an HOA is just letting your neigbours tell you what to do? That's lame.

[-] Lumelore 37 points 9 hours ago

HOAs were created because racists didn't want black people in their neighborhood. I fucking hate HOAs.

[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 hours ago

Judging by another guys post, HOA's are way of offloading a whole new tax structure on individual neighborhoods. The whole being racist thing is how they convinced everyone to pay it.

[-] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago

Yeah, the town didn’t even plow or maintain the roads in some HOAs. And the property tax “savings” instead go to scumbag property management conglomerates.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

Wait until you learn about when they created SATs.

[-] TipRing@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

I don't have an HOA but my property operates under deed restrictions that limit property owners in meaningful ways, establishing usage of the wells, easements, number of structures and so forth.

One of my neighbors repeatedly referred to herself as "the head of the HOA" and I told her she needed to stop saying that because we don't have one. I didn't say as much but I would hire an attorney to send a C&D if she were to keep that up.

[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 hours ago

HOA's! Fuck me. I mean, say what you want about the tenets of municipalities, Dude, at least it's a system of governance!

[-] OwOarchist@pawb.social 3 points 7 hours ago

at least it’s a system of governance!

Local governments are subject to monitored elections and the bill of rights.

HOAs are neither. Their elections can easily be cheated, and they're under no legal obligation to respect the civil rights of their members.

[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago

Well, the quote I butchered was meant to denigrate HOA's and say that municipalities were indeed a form of governance whereas HOA's are a form of tyranny. So I'm not sure what point your making, but high five!

[-] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 5 points 8 hours ago

HOAs vary a lot. In my city, every new development has one as a condition of getting permits from the city. That's mainly because cars and their infrastructure are stupidly expensive, the city just can't afford to maintain it all without raising property taxes. I have friends who live in an HOA neighborhood, and basically they just pay an extra monthly bill to cover snow removal, maintenance of common areas, and such. For them, it's nothing like the horror stories of HOAs that can take your house if your mailbox is the wrong color. It is just a group providing services that the city can't afford anymore.

[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 hours ago

So they aren't a proto-city like an unassumed municipality, they are like a posto-city where late stage capitalism goes to retire and find a new revenu stream.

[-] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 2 points 8 hours ago

Some of them, yeah.

[-] OwOarchist@pawb.social 4 points 7 hours ago

the city just can’t afford to maintain it all without raising property taxes

So, instead, everybody gets to pay HOA fees. I guess as long as you don't call it a 'tax' people will go along with it.

[-] SarahValentine@pawb.social 6 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

But an HOA is just letting your neigbours tell you what to do? That’s lame.

Sure, but there's a chance they could become the ones fucking their neighbors over for cheap thrills! That makes it okay! /s

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