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Artist Jingna Zhang built Cara, a platform explicitly intended to protect artists from having their art stolen by AI...and yet these people just won't leave them well enough alone.

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[-] Gladaed@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago

If You put your stuff online, it is easy to steal. Otherwise people wouldn't be able to view it.

Accept that and move on.

[-] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 36 points 3 days ago

If you park your car outside, it is easy to steal.

Accept that and move on.

[-] HieroProtagonist@feddit.org 1 points 3 days ago

The original images are gone? How did that happen?

If not, and we are still in consent that copying is not stealing... well, then the more fitting analog would be that it is terribly easy to make a photo of your car

[-] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 18 points 3 days ago

If i put a garden gnome outside i'd expect people to be decent and not steal it and send it to space.

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

And if they do send it to space I'd at least like to get a postcard. From space.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 4 points 3 days ago

I though we established that making copies is not stealing...

[-] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

maybe you should direct that to OP, they're the one mentioned stealing.

Also yes and no, depend on the circumstance. If someone download a video to watch it personally, then that wouldn't be stealing. If they then reupload to direct traffic to themselves and denying the original creator revenue, then that's stealing, but not the art, it's the revenue.

It's really about expecting people to be decent, punching up instead of punching down. If someone really wanted to be left alone in this AI infested era and doesn't want their art to be scraped and trained, then leave them be. What worst, those are independent artist that usually already struggling, not millionaires.

[-] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

We didn’t. The definition of stealing means taking something without permission. Has nothing to do with physical items.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago

All the people using adblockers and pirating are going to be angry.

[-] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

Why? I wouldn’t call viewing a publicly accessible site stealing. It’s published to the public, therefore the permission to view it is given.

But even if you do want to classify it as stealing, so what?

Big tech is stealing our data constantly. I have no issues stealing things of my own. 🏴‍☠️

[-] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago
[-] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

Explain your point.

I already addressed the fact that you have permission to view public sites.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago

You have permission under the condition you watch the ads.

[-] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

If that disclaimer is shown to the user before they enter the site then yes, that would be stealing.

Not sure I’ve ever seen that disclaimer, but I’m sure it exists.

Not really sure what your point is, this isn’t that complicated of topic.

Are you under the impression that stealing is always wrong, and there is zero room for nuance and grey area? That would explain why you can’t wrap your head around this.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago

It's in the terms and conditions, and the cookie pop-up.

[-] destructdisc@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

If you keep your stuff in your house, it's easy to steal. Otherwise people wouldn't be able to break your door down.

Accept that and move on.

[-] Gladaed@feddit.org 3 points 3 days ago

Nailing a 100€ note to the ground is a different kind of invitation than having a safe.

[-] anton 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

When NFT bros where claiming digital ownership, we rightfully made fun of them. Now we want to protect our images and have forgotten that it can't be done by technology alone.

[-] carrylex@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Wow I really don't know what the downvotes are all about because your point is pretty much correct.

Real world example: If you hang up an image in a public space people can and will take pictures of it. You can't stop this.

The whole thing has pretty much nothing to do with AI...

[-] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

If you hang up an image in a public space people can and will take pictures of it. You can’t stop this.

Never been to an event/gallery that didn't allow photography, huh?

[-] carrylex@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Never seen a person take a picture of a "no photography allowed"-sign huh?

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