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[-] pixeldaemon@sh.itjust.works 5 points 22 hours ago

It was not truly ready for end users until the latest years but was shipped despite. It also broke some kinds (I mean a lot of) software, I cannot imagine how many lines of code had to be rewritten because of Wayland. And it also lacks screensavers. And is more resource-demanding.

[-] daggermoon@piefed.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Now, I like a good screensaver but I don't think that's useful to anyone without a CRT.

[-] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

It does not lack screensavers and there is no reason it has to be more demanding. The protocol isn't more demanding, the implementations are

[-] pixeldaemon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 17 hours ago

There is no way to get a real screensaver work, prove me wrong. And no one cares if it is the protocol or the implementation. It just works worse than X11 on modest hardware, and people dislike it.

[-] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-Mint-Wayland-Screensaver

It was never impossible or difficult it's just nobody bothered because screensavers are actually bad.

Not all implementations are slower, only certain ones.

[-] edinbruh@feddit.it 2 points 15 hours ago

no one cares if it's the protocol or the implementation. it just works worse than x11 on modest hardware

Actually, people that are not hell bent on using x11 do care... That is because the protocol is inherently more efficient than x11, and the compositor matters.

So if you try to run kwin or mutter, there's no doubt they are going to be more demanding than a plain xorg server (but not more than xorg+KDE or xorg+gnome). But if you try to use a compositor made for low hardware like labwc, it's gonna run laps around xorg. And you can even use labwc on lxqt, so you get your familiar desktop environment but with a modern Wayland compositor.

Just try it. Dig up an old intel atom netbook and see if you prefer using xorg or labwc

[-] pixeldaemon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago

The old machines I have are that old, that they barely get along with LXQt (X11 if I memory serves), and my main one can even stand KDE (with Wayland ofc)

[-] edinbruh@feddit.it 2 points 14 hours ago

Well, try lxqt+labwc. You'll need to set it up, but if you are already willing to tinker with xorg in that machine it won't throw you off too much. You'll be pleased with the result

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