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[-] Railing5132@lemmy.world 215 points 1 week ago

Your flock post reminder that they aren't just license plate readers. They capture Bluetooth and wifi MACs, NFC IDs, and cellphone IMEIs, scan for wifi ssids (exactly like a WiFi Pineapple, to further fingerprint a device) from every device within range. They also do facial recognition of everyone within view of the lens. All that information is sent to flock for sale to any government agency,

[-] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago

A couple of magnets and a small sheet of metal will not only block the camera, but also leave it fully enclosed in a metal box.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

A stiff wind or a jostle will knock that loose. Sometimes what you need is a hammer

[-] cynar@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

A few neodymium magnets and that's a non issue. It also makes it harder to prove damages in front of a judge, if you're ever caught.

[-] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

General Ludd's hammer always worked.

[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Fuck the people in my town have just started running them over with their cars.

To the point it's making headlines in the news lmao

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 12 points 1 week ago
[-] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

That doesn't stop the electronic surveillance.

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Sure, but it makes it a whole lot easier for the next activist to disable that

We work in teams. Each accoring to their own ability and risk appetite.

First, someone maps the location of the cameras on OSM. That's totally legal and extremely important for the whole effort.

Next, someone spray paints them. Then someone cuts them down and smashes them. Finally, scrappers come to collect the waste.

[-] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

Some people burn the cameras out with lasers instead of spray paint!

[-] possumparty 3 points 1 week ago

lasers don't damage the entire sensor, it puts dots in the sensor but rarely kills it entirely.

[-] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

I'm seeing a whole lot of people say otherwise with laser strength talk and have handled cameras before so imma trust them over some random claiming otherwise.

[-] possumparty 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"I'm gonna trust this random that confirms my worldview over another random without asking anyone's qualifications" 🤡

You'd have to sit there for literally over a minute at close range just shining the laser directly into the sensor otherwise you'll just leave spots on it.

https://youtu.be/8bpyMST7eCA

https://youtube.com/shorts/jX6EmldIbR0

https://youtu.be/wREpnGqEhSM

https://youtube.com/shorts/yzJ9ix3KL7c

TLDW: You're unlikely to kill a camera with a laser unless you have a 3W laser, a tripod, and several minutes. It's not the "flash a laser into the lens to kill it" like people keep making it out to be.

P.s. I've been a live music photographer off and on for fifteen years, I've shot around lasers plenty of times. Don't be surprised when Flock adds a laser filter to their lenses.

https://youtu.be/QdkQmtQmhCE

[-] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

I’m gonna trust this random that confirms my worldview over another random without asking anyone’s qualifications”

Fuck of a lot smarter than trusting a random with 0 qualifications mentioned.

Not watching shit since you think I'm not discussing using a more than 3w laser. Probably think I meant a red normal one, huh?

Having burned out my own camera equipment testing this shit myself I know what I'm talking about buddy.

[-] possumparty 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yeah, you don't know shit. I provided several sources of security companies and researchers. Blocked. Go back to reddit.

Also, you're a fucking idiot. 3W is extremely powerful. That's 600x the legal limit, the fact that you're arguing a 3W laser would be a red laser pointer tells me how fucking daft you are.

[-] CubitOom@infosec.pub 21 points 1 week ago

Also microphones

[-] BassTurd@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

It would be a shame if someone much smarter than me used that knowledge to exploit these systems with ~~malware~~ freedomeware.

[-] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 1 points 1 week ago

What are their inputs?

[-] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 11 points 1 week ago

How does it fetch NFC data when it's only readable within a few cm?

[-] plz1@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

I think the point is, they are scraping any possible data points they can over any tech/frequency/etc. NFC is unlikely unless that is pushed alongside BTLE, BT, or WiFi.

FWIW, businesses deploy tech that does this too, just for pure greed purposes, rather than mass surveillance.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago

You "can" read nfc from further away, the couple of cm limit is it's designed operation.

You need an emitter with enough field strength to power the remote chip that is also sensitive enough to read the modulation on the signal. You can buy commercial devices that go about a meter. You can get all hacky and push way past that, but you need antennas that are much larger than what would fit in a flock box

[-] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 4 points 1 week ago

That's really insightful, thanks 👍

[-] Railing5132@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

I questioned that too. Didn't get a satisfactory response. It was a in a presentation for mainly law enforcement to a generally non-technical audience. But I include it in my 'notification' anyway because those bastards are sneaky. The main push of the presentation is that if it emits a signal, it's leaving digital exhaust that can be tracked and correlated.

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Are some allegedly ALPR+car identification (including dents and “convoys”, associated vehicles) only while others (like some capturing walking paths) do the faces + audio & all?

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