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[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

They aren't. And it's disingenuous to assert otherwise.

[-] treefrog@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

They're neo-libs which is better because the conservatives are fascists.

But they're both evil. Just a matter of degree. Hence us voting for the lesser of the two.

[-] charliespider@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Exactly, I don't enjoy voting that way but do so out of necessity.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

voting for evil is bad

edit: people downviting me prefer to vote for evil

[-] treefrog@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

It's not great but we have to be pragmatic unfortunately.

And it's pretty shitty honestly that what the neo-libs have going for them is at least we're not fascists.

Need a strong third party and ranked choice voting.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

What we actually have going for us is the largest period of sustained peace and prosperity in all of human history.

[-] treefrog@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sustained peace? You're joking right?

Also, prosperity for who?

You know most life on this planet is going to have a very hard time the next ten years.

Neo-libs pretend to be the left to get the working class to forget classism. But they're at best centrists who are more concerned about keeping the 'peace' (Obama drone strikes I'm looking at you) so the corporate power brokers can continue to 'prosper'.

But, at least you're not a fascist.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Prosperity for literally everyone. Graph go up mean world more gooder.

[-] treefrog@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

So I just realized you replied to my comment twice.

Considering this post and your other ones it's obvious you don't have anything real to say.

Take care.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I 100% mean the above.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Neoliberals aren't evil - we're just correct.

[-] treefrog@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

The type of response I would expect from the GOP tbh

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That's because your life is informed more from social media than real life.

We're the normal people.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago
[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Do you know the first thing about the Democratic platform? It's not perfect - and they're not perfect - but I have a trans kid, and they're the ones who want him to have rights and be treated like a human being. They're also the ones who want to raise taxes on the rich to fund social services. They're also the ones who accept the demonstrable reality of climate change. They're also the ones who resist efforts to put religion into schools and government.

Are they as left as I wish they were? Nope. But they're not conservative, either, at least not most of them.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

I guarantee they will not accomplish anything: they want to hold it over you to score votes in perpetuity. they will also continue to take corporate dollars and water down legislation that does pass so it greases the palms of their donors.

[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Your guarantee is worthless and idiotic. The fact that they're not perfect doesn't mean they aren't 10,000% better in every way than Republicans. Enough of this bullshit "both sides" narrative. I'll stick to the side that isn't trying to take my son's rights away.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

the didn't codify roe v Wade. they passed tarp and the patriot act. they fund police and prisons and war. they passed Obama are as a gift to insurance industries. they didn't jail bp executives for deepwater horizon and even paid oil companies for Correxit.

democrats are not your friend: they are the "good cop".

That's all true, but none of that means anything to a trans person who wants to not get their rights taken away, though.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

democrat promises mean just as much

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

they passed [Obamacare] as a gift to insurance agencies

The original single-payer Obamacare failed by one vote so if there were more Democrats elected we would have single-payer health care.

Your weird fantasy doesn't align with reality and this is true at all levels

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

calling my fact-based position a "weird fantasy" is jus innuendo, not a refutation

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

this is yet another appeal 5o ridicule. you may benefit from learning principals of intellectually honest discourse

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

another appeal to ridicule.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

the greens are the ones you want, then.

[-] EnderWi99in@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

The party the right pays for? No thanks. Pass.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have bad news about the democrats

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