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[-] JayleneSlide@lemmy.world 180 points 1 day ago

The United States was founded on principles of liberty and equality for all.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 77 points 1 day ago

While I was taught that in elementary school, I was also taught about the 3/5ths compromise as early as middle school. By the time high school rolled around I was being taught about reconstruction and the corrupt bargain of 1877. I guess I’m lucky I got a good education in the north because I am aware that’s not necessarily the standard nationally.

[-] tmyakal@infosec.pub 15 points 1 day ago

My AP history teacher gave us copies of Zinn's A People's History of the United States as a supplemental to our textbooks. She was an awful teacher overall, but I appreciated her trying to make sure we had multiple perspectives.

Then I went to an elite east-coast private college, where I almost failed US History because I called the professor out for teaching Lost Cause bullshit.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Any academic peddling lost cause bullshit is a complete joke. Just curious, were they from the south?

[-] tmyakal@infosec.pub 11 points 1 day ago

Of course they were.

He also characterized the 2000 election as "a perfect tie" that could've just as easily been decided by a coinflip instead of the more historically agreed upon view of the Supreme Court ratfucking Florida's recount.

[-] homes@piefed.world 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Technically, it was founded on the principles of liberty and equality for all. Just not the practices of liberty and equality for all. it was an aspiration, a goal of our forefathers.

But the way they teach it in school is pretty deceptive— as if it was all accomplished magically on that day in 1776, when, even today, it’s a constant struggle— a goal that we’re much closer to, but still remains elusive. that’s the part they don’t teach.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

it was founded on the principles of liberty and equality for all.

No. Not at all. Give me a break. No women, natives, enslaved people, etc.

[-] prole 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

it was an aspiration, a goal of our forefathers.

I just do not believe this. These are people who regularly raped their slaves, and then enslaved the progeny.

[-] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

It was an aspiration for white men specifically. It took centuries for the definition of humanity to expand from that perspective.

[-] DaGeek247@fedia.io 5 points 1 day ago

If we didn't have this lie, people wouldn't be as mad when they found the parts where it is untrue.

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