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Lefties you gotta get your person up and ready. Presuming elections still exist and should this guy emerge as the frontrunner you have about 814 days before you have to vote for this guy or continue flushing ourselves down the republican hole.
Every article about him brings the boo-birds. That’s fine, but there’s still no champion for our leftier-than-thou politicos. You just gonna let it ride on Bernie again?
Bernie is officially too old (honestly, he was in 2015)
If Newsome is on the ballot in november I'll vote for him. Of course if Lassie was on the ballot as a democrat in 2028, I'll vote for her.
Don't give a shit. Anything is better than a republican.
That is NOT true. Voting for a Democrat that does nothing is just as bad. Not only would they do nothing to reverse the damage, they have actively taken votes that would have been better used on a politician that actually cares.
A lot of people will blindly vote for the person with a D next to their name. The Democratic party is purposely not putting the best candidates forward. There needs to be more awareness of who the duds are and either vote them out or not vote them in.
Primaries are where you decide. After that, you choose the least worst. And sorry, a "Democrat that does nothing" is not just as bad as open fascism.
Neither is a 3rd party candidate.
No 3rd party candidate will win a General Election unless something changes in the way the Is voting system works. Voting for a 3rd party is literally throwing your vote away at best, or helping the Republicans at worst.
It’s either naivety or intentional disinformation to spout otherwise.
so in your worldview does voting Libertarian hurt the Republicans and/or Does it help the Democrats?
Additionally, voting 3rd-party is not "Figuratively throwing your vote away." Not voting when you're registered is "Figuratively Throwing your vote away." Voting 3rd party at the very least puts the other parties on notice that you're willing to vote -just not for them.
Are you actually asking this? You actually don't understand how spoiler candidates happen in US democracy?
Indeed. Anyone spreading stuff like this is either doing to to help trump or is really stupid
And they have next to no chance of winning.
And that's how people like Trump become president. Pure and simple.
Sometimes the lesser of two evils is quite a lot less fucking evil.
The problem as I see it is that you and the other posters here have fallen for the moving goalposts. "Shit is ok - at least it isn't vomit." That is such a poor and defeatist mentality to have. It isn't a bad thing to want more. Don't be OK with "the lesser of two evils". Fight for at least one good candidate. Hold your party accountable for choosing awful candidates that don't have the people's best interests at heart.
I have voted for the lesser of two evils, and I will continue to do so. That won't stop me from asking for better, and it will not change my mind that inaction in a bad situation is no better than doing bad things.
That's what primaries are for.
Like it or not, we live in a two-party system. The electoral college and the congressional rules make it so. We can either make it work, or we can give up.
I'm going to vote for the leftist, most progressive person i can in the primaries. But when that fails, I'm going to vote for the democrat on the ticket because even the worst democrat is better than the best republican at this point.
We can't afford another 4 years of Trump-Light in JD Vance.. Millions of people have already died as a result of Trump getting back in this time... and more people will die, and it will be marginalized people. People of Color, Trans people, immigrants. As in real death.
Not Voting has real consequences.
The Democratic socialists of America would like to have a word with you
Newsom is just as much of a fascist as the orange pedophile
Good luck convincing anyone who has eyes and a brain
Dude lemmy eats this shit up like a fat kid getting after a cupcake.
It's one of my biggest issues with lemmy, it's like the democrat that gets us some actually great policies, who does have some big problems, is treated the same as the Republicans passing racist transphobic climate damaging research canceling (also canceled funding for cancer research for children...) legislation.
Democrats seem to be useless because they have to spend 4 years undoing the trainwreck caused by Republicans, but the American people have the memory of a goldfish apparently so we keep getting more Republicans.
Newsom is just as much of a fascist as the orange pedophile
If Newsom is the Democrat candidate in 2028, I think that's an alright outcome. I think he would be a better president than Trump. Not just because he has a "D" next to his name, but instead because his viewpoints seem more rational and fair than those of Trump.
Some people might think that Newsom isn't progressive enough, but whoever is the Democrat candidate, they need to have broad enough appeal to win a national election. If the candidate is someone who is very progressive then they might alienate a lot of centrist voters and fail to win a national election.
There is a very clear difference between a Centrist and somebody who does nothing. Steady progress is fine as long as progress is made.
Inaction means you are fine with the current situation. The people who do not stand up to the bully are no better than the bully, and the people who think otherwise are deluding themselves so they can feel better about not helping.
I'm getting particularly frustrated that commenters are taking a very clear statement and manipulating it to put words in my mouth in order to think they've made a point. I'm not blaming you specifically but you are the straw that broke the camel's back.
I can't fucking believe wanting politicians to actually make the world a better place would be so fucking controversial.
Crazy, It's almost like the DNC is complicit in keeping any viable economically left winged candidates away from any seat of power where they could one day become a decent candidate for president.
I really can't understand why anyone would think Gavin Newsome is a good candidate. Imo the only thing different between the mainstream Democrats and the Republicans is an affectation of wokeness, and Gavin Newsome doesn't even clear that hurdle.
His only talent in life is cheating on his wife and befriending the Gettys. Literally has not had to work for a thing in his life. Daddy bought him a degree at a private school, got a baseball scholarship..... never played a single game. His best friend bought him a winery, and then had Mayor Brown take him under his wing in SF, and then had governor brown do the same exact thing.
Can we not go a little bit farther to the left than the best friend of an oil Barron?
I’ll do what I always do watch the Dem establishment shit all over everything while I hold my nose and vote for a shit stain like newsowm. There’s plenty of time for a “lefty” candidate to rise as long as the DNC fucks off to hell.
I'll be shocked if AOC runs for president and not against Schumer.
If she doesn't then just vote Michelle Obama in, as there's really nobody else I can think of in a position to run by then. Not a leftist at least in the surface but she'd win in a landslide. Easily. And I'd prefer her over someone like Newsom or Shapiro..
She'll go for Schumers seat. The Democrats need a dude to run against the republican. Shooting yourself in the foot by having a woman run is not worth the risk to the fate of the country. The handicap from the sexist assholes is just too great to overcome.
That's the frank games theory we've proven this decade.
I think it has been debunked that a woman or person of color is why we lost. Key to note: Anyone who was a true sexist racist piece of shit was already core maga and never, ever going to vote for any Democrat.
People must remember that nobody has polled higher against Trump -- ever -- than Michelle Obama. IF she wants to run (and a big if), she would win. Just need a tad bit more charisma.
(If anyone has any evidence whatsoever beyond speculation or shoddy N=2 statistics, I'm all ears, but I have not found evidence).
When was that debunked? How? If you genuinely think misogyny and misogynoir weren't part of why Hillary and Kamala lost then I've got a bridge to sell you.
Go ahead and sell me that bridge because there is a complete and total lack of evidence to support the claim. Can't really prove a counterfactual. Others made the claim she lost because of this; when asked for evidence, they always come up short.
Counterpoints:
Biden polled worse than Harris at the end. (White Guy polling worse than Black Woman). Hence the switch in the first place, even Biden agreed!
Michelle Obama has always polled higher than anyone against Trump (Black Woman polling better than White Guy).
Sexists bigots were already core Republican voters never voting for any D no matter who. The battle was lost elsewhere.
What you're missing is that even racists and misogynists will vote for women or minorities if they say the right talking points. Just look at all the pick-mes on the fascist side. This argument is always trotted out by "centrists" against progressives, but the centrists love to run women and minorities, act like that makes them progressive, and blame racism/misogyny when they lose for being uninspiring empty suits. I'm sick of the hypocrisy.
You know most of them won't because he doesn't support their personally cut together version of Das Kapital.
Like it or not, Gavin is one of the few Dems who actually has signed progressive laws in this country. But because he looks the way he do the 'identity politics' people can't help but judge him because of that.
He also made homelessness illegal and held back plenty of other progressive laws, but yeah sure it's identity politics.
I'm voting for AOC