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[-] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago

No idea why that's such a hot take by them. So many people have AC here. Houses, establishments, public areas, and increasing for obvious reasons.

AC here are nearly always split units though. Our windows don't slide up, so harder to install that type of AC unit that sits on the sill.

[-] reev@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 days ago

The reason that "it's ok we have AC" is a dumbass small brain take is that the "it" that is allegedly ok in this scenario is global warming. AC won't save most of the planet from the consequences of our choices and actions.

[-] kevinsky@feddit.nl 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Still though.

In europe we average out somwhere between 3 to 4000kwh per year for a household, where in the US it's 10k upwards, which looks like a dramatic difference.

But we haven't really looped in the fact that in Europe we mainly rely on natural gas solutions for climate control/heating, hot water and cooking.

Ofcouse they also use gas in the US, and invariably the fact that we don't really cool our houses in the summer still works out to a lower usage overall i'm sure, but as we also shift to heat pumps I'm sure this'll change.

Most people don't cool their house because they can't, not because of some principle against it. When people start replacing their gas heaters with heatpumps they can, and i'm sure they will.

We also can't ignore we don't really have those Arizona climates here. Americans that complain about any lack of AC also forget that.

[-] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

I think for the future we need to get green energy for very cheap here in Germany and Europe. Everything should be electric including mobility, cooling, heating etc.

The future is not looking bright right now with the governments we have but I think technology wise that's the future.

[-] matthurtme@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If I didn't have AC, my very old asbestos ridden apartment would be over 110° farenheit. That's 43° Celsius. I guess Europeans don't give a shit about the giant corporations though. They just expect us and our pets to die.

[-] reev@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago

Weird strawman here. No one's saying to not use AC, it's just not the solution to the actual problem and we shouldn't pretend that it is because it's convenient and "good enough" for now.

[-] matthurtme@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

It's not a straw man as an American who voted for Harris. I hate trump just as much as the rest of world does. The hate all Americans shit is mostly why I decided to humanize myself. We're not all fucking maga nazis

[-] reev@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago

Happy for you, I guess. Maybe next time you'll bring an actual argument to the discussion :)

[-] matthurtme@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I did and explained myself, you decided you respond with what you thought was a witty retort and nothing of actual substance to add to your argument

[-] prole 2 points 2 days ago

You know what extreme heat can also cause? Blackouts.

And it happens all of the time because of the increased load on the grid from everyone cranking their AC.

Your AC is useless without power.

[-] PagPag@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

My house is fully off grid with a 36kW solar system and 86kWh battery setup. There are times where I can get down to the wire but ultimately that’s when it’s a prolonged rain /storm scenario.

The hotter it is the more likely the sun is shining, so I have zero concerns about a blackout situation. Realize this isn’t viable for most people but I sure am glad I took the plunge.

[-] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 2 points 2 days ago

AC here are nearly always split units though. Our windows don't slide up, so harder to install that type of AC unit that sits on the sill.

I have windows that slide sideways, and an AC unit with two pipes (intake and exhaust) that go through a piece of plastic sitting in the window's rail.

It's terrible. Super loud, and the room gets hot again in a couple minutes after I turn it off.

Split units are almost always illegal to install because of local urbanism laws, or apartment lot rules.

[-] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yes, this, fucking this. I do have a monoblock device because I'm not allowed anything else (Germany, apartment). I'm literally designing and printing stuff to mod it to dual-pipe (because for whatever reason the free market won't even give us THAT) and also to route the cold air directly into another room so my ears won't fall off. Of course the moment it's off everything's fucking warm again… and since the only room it can be in is by BEDROOM to cool down my living room for the day I have to get up at least at 8 AM even on weekends when it's warm to open the window (directly to a loud street) to start the thing (65db baby, let's go!).

I'm fucking pissed about all of this. But heeey, at least the building traps heat perfectly during winter, right? Just cooks everyone in the summer. But that's "beautiful sun", so I guess it must be good. Argh. 💀

And guess what… no sliding windows. In fact I have no normal windows even, just window doors. Those fucking taped on textile "air stops" will always detach eventually because of the underpressure the AC creates.

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