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[-] rockSlayer 123 points 4 weeks ago

We're destroying the environment for this folks

[-] Mwa@thelemmy.club 3 points 4 weeks ago
[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 50 points 4 weeks ago

No one in this post about Google is talking about local LLMs.

[-] Mwa@thelemmy.club 4 points 4 weeks ago

i was trying to say Local LLMS dont destroy the environment(cause its using the power of your pc instead)

[-] bluespin@lemmy.world 46 points 4 weeks ago

Training the models still uses a vast amount of resources

[-] Mwa@thelemmy.club 2 points 4 weeks ago

well atleast every prompt you ask it wont harm the environment

[-] j4yc33@piefed.social 17 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

If you are browsing Piefed you are probably using about 10-20% of your computer's resources (if it is a computer capable of running a 4B model).

When you question the model and it pegs your system out, that is between 5 and 10 TIMES more resource utilization and power waste just to have a question answered that you could have taken the time to research, improve your own critical thinking skills, and learned something without changing your utilization at all.

Not counting the training debt.

[-] Mwa@thelemmy.club 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

i forgot about critical thinking, hehe.
but i hope my use of AI doesnt ruin it that much.
btw the best respones here.

[-] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 9 points 4 weeks ago

"I'm not the one deforesting the amazon but I really love teak furniture, so I'M not the one hurting anybody by buying it"

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah, but Google search isn't using local models.

[-] Mwa@thelemmy.club 1 points 4 weeks ago
[-] humanamerican@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 weeks ago

Your computer uses more power when the GPU is "thinking" than when its idle, so there would still be environmental damage.

[-] VeganCheesecake 17 points 4 weeks ago

No? If everyone who uses LLMs globally switched over to a local LLM (after buying the necessary hardware), that'd still be a crazy amount of energy usage, just less centralised.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago

More energy actually.

[-] Mwa@thelemmy.club 3 points 4 weeks ago

nah like using the current Gaming PC/Laptop you have, Like Intel CPU + intergrated graphics or smth.

[-] VeganCheesecake 6 points 4 weeks ago

I suppose, but that's a very different class of model. I think a more important question might be whether people actually need LLMs at all.

[-] Mwa@thelemmy.club 2 points 3 weeks ago

whether people actually need LLMs at all.

this is personal preference ig.

[-] VeganCheesecake 2 points 3 weeks ago

What I'm saying is that not all local LLMs are more power efficient, and that we are currently massively over-using the technology for things it isn't all that useful for.

[-] Mwa@thelemmy.club 1 points 3 weeks ago
[-] jtrek@startrek.website 6 points 4 weeks ago

There are so many better tools for this kind of thing.

[-] Mwa@thelemmy.club 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

like what?
plus i tend to use a search engine more often if i can find what i want.

[-] jtrek@startrek.website 3 points 4 weeks ago

For counting letters in a word? That's like a one line expression in Python or JavaScript (and other languages). JavaScript console is right there in your browser.

[-] Mwa@thelemmy.club 1 points 4 weeks ago

if javascript can do it,tell me how to do it?

[-] jtrek@startrek.website 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

const countOfT = (word) => word.split('').filter(i => i === 't').length
countOfT('colonialism')
0 

countOfT('this is an example sentence')
2 

There's probably a more elegant way to do it.

[-] Mwa@thelemmy.club 1 points 4 weeks ago

nice to know that does not need AI ig

[-] TheWeirdestCunt@lemmy.today 4 points 3 weeks ago

Good to see so many people misunderstanding how local hosting works.

Running your own local LLM is no worse than running a graphically intensive game like cyberpunk 2077 or red dead redemption 2.

[-] Mwa@thelemmy.club 4 points 3 weeks ago

thats what i was thinking

[-] VeganCheesecake 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yes. But compared to the number of people who currently use LLMs, not that many have hardware capable of doing that.

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