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submitted 1 week ago by choihanna@lemmy.zip to c/mtf

As another trans woman it has been so hard for me to connect with other trans women because of this.

I'm very critical of men and the way they behave in our society, and my cis girl friends and gay male friends almost always agree.

Now every time I bring this up to trans friends they jump to defend men, girl why are you defending men when they're literally the ones killing trans women and cis women at exponential rates and you're telling me that men don't have a problem??

I genuinely don't understand that need they have to defend men...

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[-] zea_64 11 points 1 week ago

To the people saying not all men: yes, we know, and you're not the first to comment it. How about we rephrase it verbosely as "among men, it is common to do a bunch of problematic behaviors". Now can we get back to the point of the post?

[-] isleepinahammock 4 points 1 week ago

But that is the point of the post. The discussion was "why are some trans women defensive of men?" And you yourself just answered it. For people who had to live a long period of their lives as male, hearing someone say, without nuance, "all men are terrible"? Well you just declared that it doesn't matter what's in someone's heart. Their actions don't matter. They're a terrible person simply for their gender. And that means, if you really believe that, for virtually any trans woman, there was a time in their life you would have considered them terrible. They were outwardly presenting as male; their inner heart is irrelevant. They "were men." Men are bad. Therefore, they were bad.

When you leave no room for nuance and individual character you end up also including trans womens' pasts in your definition of "terrible men."

[-] choihanna@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Omg thank you so much, why are people trying to ignore the fact that thousands of years of patriarchal history and toxic masculinity aren't affecting the way men act nowadays...

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