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submitted 2 days ago by floofloof@lemmy.ca to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

cross-posted from: https://piefed.ca/c/canada/p/727265/signal-to-ottawa-we-ll-leave-canada-before-we-help-you-spy-on-users

Signal is drawing a hard line on the federal government’s proposed surveillance legislation: comply with Bill C-22 or leave the country. The secure messaging app says it would rather ditch the Canadian market than be forced to weaken the privacy protections it has built its reputation on. In an interview with The Globe and Mail

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[-] funkforager@sh.itjust.works 65 points 2 days ago

The Canada-region app stores like Apple or Android would be unwilling to let you download the app if the law passes. So without sideloading, it just wouldn’t be accessible.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

i'll never cease to be amazed how much sideloading has become synonymous with obscurity at best and app-death at the worst.

[-] Delilah 131 points 2 days ago

And by side loading you mean installing software on a device you own, like PCs have been forever. Side loading is a 100% bullshit term created by Apple and Google to try and make sure you don't think you actually own your devices

[-] akilou@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

Ok, I'm on board. So like what do we call installing an app outside of a store?

[-] root@aussie.zone 16 points 2 days ago

Installing a downloaded application.

[-] Delilah 9 points 2 days ago

Installing for short

[-] Redjard@reddthat.com 3 points 2 days ago

Installing an apk, installing directly, ...
As opposed to installing from Fdroid, from gplay, ...

You can also go by source, like with the stores. For example Signal android can be installed from their website (by downloading an apk).

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 20 points 2 days ago
[-] ghodawalaaman@programming.dev 2 points 2 hours ago

we called it installing in our days

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

installing and Installing^TM^ have become different things and the people who grew up on mobile devices never installed anything but they did Install^TM^ plenty.

[-] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Any reason Signal couldn't offer a web app client?

[-] egsaqmojz@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago

cuz they dont store msgs on a server. feature, not a bug

[-] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Web browsers have a local storage API.

[-] Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

Signal mentioned that their apps were best for security and a web browser had too many vulnerabilities that they couldn't guarantee.

They prefer to manage their own apps - a signal desktop app being one of them.

[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

Am I the only one who has app store accounts for multiple regions?

But actually, if this happens (and it won’t, at least this time), the next bill to go through would have to be for the right to sideload. Because all of the politicians use Signal and would need a way to install it.

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 5 points 2 days ago

Or people could just install it from fdroid.

Oh wait, signal isn't FOSS so it isn't allowed on fdroid.

[-] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 3 points 2 days ago

Not the official repo...because they couldn't meet it's acceptance criteria. Which is a red flag

[-] Ash37970244@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

Yep and Molly is even better :)

[-] ruplicant@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

I think it used to, but unfortunely Molly is not on Fdroid's repo. You can download it from the app, but you'd need to add Molly's repo

[-] racoon@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago

GrapheneOS frowns upon fdroid because of apk security reasons

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 1 day ago

And we frown upon grapheneOS because of numerous human concerns

[-] root@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I get it from FDroid via the Guardian repo. No issues.

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 2 points 2 days ago

Security issues. guardian repo has no acceptances criteria. Closed source blobs? Allowed.

[-] ItJustDonn@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 days ago
[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 2 days ago

Molly is Foss, but it's not on fdroid for likely other sketchy reasons

[-] eodur@piefed.social 7 points 2 days ago

Its on Accrescent though

[-] TiredTiger@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

You can import the repo into F-Droid.

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 2 days ago

...and make yourself less secure, sure

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