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Dawkin it for my AI (lemmy.world)

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[-] turdas@suppo.fi 1 points 14 hours ago

No it can't. If you're actually saying that modern LLMs are no better at passing the Turing test than ELIZA, you are either trolling or an utterly delusional AI hater. Here, have a paper that proves you wrong: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2503.23674

I am not saying the Turing test is a good benchmark of consciousness. On the contrary, like I said, LLMs have proven that it is not. But mere ten years ago even the most advanced chatbots had no hope of passing it, whereas now the most advanced ones are selected as the human over 70% of the time in a test that pits the LLM against a human head to head.

[-] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

No I'm saying the Turing test is a philosophical hypothetical from the time before computers, and doesn't actually show anything, because it relies on the least accurate tool at our disposal: human pattern recognition machine, one that is oh so happy to be fooled by the ELIZAS of various sofistication. Chatbots were passing the Turing test since the invention of a chatbot. Yeah, modern chatbots are better at that, but it's more of a damnation of our perception

[-] turdas@suppo.fi 1 points 8 hours ago

OK, sounds like we broadly agree then.

But as you can see in the paper I linked, ELIZA passes the Turing test in their experiment about 20% of the time (that is to say, it doesn't pass; passing is 50% in this test) whereas the best LLMs pass about 70% of the time (that is to say, they are significantly more convincing at being human than real humans).

[-] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

That 20% figure is just a clear indication how shit people are at conducting such a test, and that was basically my original point. 2 in 10 times people were convinced by a particularly echoey room.

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